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Not buying it, sorry. Maybe some jobs, but all this nonsense about automation taking over everything is purely to sow FUD and for no other reason. Oh, automat

by turk73 7y ago

Not buying it, sorry. Maybe some jobs, but all this nonsense about automation taking over everything is purely to sow FUD and for no other reason. Oh, automatic trucks, yeah, probably not. That's going to be really hard to pull off because the first time one of those trucks crushes and kills a toddler, the liability is going to rise tremendously. Same with drones--the first one that crashes into a house and causes a fire that kills a whole family is going to force them to reconsider their idiotic plans. It doesn't matter how you design the things because the tech isn't what is important. As far as replacing the software engineering work I do with "freelancers" is a sure way to put my whole company out of business. If there were any freelancers out there who could assist us we would have already hired them. We don't want "freelancers" we want people who will be around to build up institutional knowledge and perform because they know our company and our data. As it is, our office in India is about 30% as efficient as the one on the US, and that whole experiment has already been running for almost two decades. It's not just the timezones, it's just the whole nature of the job. We have people with 15-20 years of experience working with us. It's just too naive a picture to say "globotics" which is just a made up word--even says so in the article. If you want good outcomes in a corporation, it would be wise to hire good people and not just stock up on human cattle.

HillaryBriss 7y ago
> the first time one of those trucks crushes and kills a toddler, the liability is going to rise tremendously Human driven trucks kill people now and have done so for decades. IMHO, the liability comparison that will matter, the one that regulators, insurance companies, the courts and the market will eventually embrace will instead be: are automatic trucks as safe or just a little bit safer than human driven trucks?
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  It's not that easy. The whole legal system is based on finding the party to blame. With human drivers it's the driver or maybe the company but if something with an automated truck happens who do you blame? I am sure companies would love to be able to hide behind an automated system.
  - HillaryBriss 7y ago
    Maybe this will turn out false, but I predict the legal system will blame whoever has the deepest pockets, just like when there's an accident with human driven trucks. And the suits will be settled in a way that does raise the cost of doing business, to your point. But I predict it won't be severe enough to kill the business outright.
maxxxxx 7y ago
"As far as replacing the software engineering work I do with "freelancers" is a sure way to put my whole company out of business. If there were any freelancers out there who could assist us we would have already hired them. We don't want "freelancers" we want people who will be around to build up institutional knowledge and perform because they know our company and our data. As it is, our office in India is about 30% as efficient as the one on the US, and that whole experiment has already been running for almost two decades. It's not just the timezones, it's just the whole nature of the job. We have people with 15-20 years of experience working with us. It's just too naive a picture to say "globotics" which is just a made up word--even says so in the article. If you want good outcomes in a corporation, it would be wise to hire good people and not just stock up on human cattle. " You can see this at the IT department in my company. They are totally outsourced and offshored and it shows that they are not capable of doing anything moderately complex because every time they start something that start from 0. They have almost no people with any institutional memory so before they start something they have to spend an insane amount of time learning the current environment. If they had people who have experience from past projects they could do things in a fraction of time. But I guess the short term benefit of firing expensive experienced workers is easier to justify than the long term benefit of keeping them.
jodrellblank 7y ago
Self-driving cars have already killed people, that hasn't stopped them yet. Poorly made products have killed and burned houses down, and people still make/sell/buy things. Aircraft have crashed killing more than one family, and air travel is still a thing. Rockets have exploded, and people still want to be astronauts. Ships have sunk and people still travel on ships. Bridges have collapsed and people drive over bridges, restaurants and country clubs have burned down and people still attend them, tower blocks have burned or collapsed and people still live in them. Smokers have died and people still smoke. One drone burning a house - just won't have the effect you suggest, or the world would look very different right now.

by turk73 7y ago

HillaryBriss 7y ago

> the first time one of those trucks crushes and kills a toddler, the liability is going to rise tremendously Human driven trucks kill people now and have done so for decades. IMHO, the liability comparison that will matter, the one that regulators, insurance companies, the courts and the market will eventually embrace will instead be: are automatic trucks as safe or just a little bit safer than human driven trucks?

maxxxxx 7y ago
It's not that easy. The whole legal system is based on finding the party to blame. With human drivers it's the driver or maybe the company but if something with an automated truck happens who do you blame? I am sure companies would love to be able to hide behind an automated system.
- HillaryBriss 7y ago
  Maybe this will turn out false, but I predict the legal system will blame whoever has the deepest pockets, just like when there's an accident with human driven trucks. And the suits will be settled in a way that does raise the cost of doing business, to your point. But I predict it won't be severe enough to kill the business outright.

maxxxxx 7y ago

"As far as replacing the software engineering work I do with "freelancers" is a sure way to put my whole company out of business. If there were any freelancers out there who could assist us we would have already hired them. We don't want "freelancers" we want people who will be around to build up institutional knowledge and perform because they know our company and our data. As it is, our office in India is about 30% as efficient as the one on the US, and that whole experiment has already been running for almost two decades. It's not just the timezones, it's just the whole nature of the job. We have people with 15-20 years of experience working with us. It's just too naive a picture to say "globotics" which is just a made up word--even says so in the article. If you want good outcomes in a corporation, it would be wise to hire good people and not just stock up on human cattle. " You can see this at the IT department in my company. They are totally outsourced and offshored and it shows that they are not capable of doing anything moderately complex because every time they start something that start from 0. They have almost no people with any institutional memory so before they start something they have to spend an insane amount of time learning the current environment. If they had people who have experience from past projects they could do things in a fraction of time. But I guess the short term benefit of firing expensive experienced workers is easier to justify than the long term benefit of keeping them.

jodrellblank 7y ago

Self-driving cars have already killed people, that hasn't stopped them yet. Poorly made products have killed and burned houses down, and people still make/sell/buy things. Aircraft have crashed killing more than one family, and air travel is still a thing. Rockets have exploded, and people still want to be astronauts. Ships have sunk and people still travel on ships. Bridges have collapsed and people drive over bridges, restaurants and country clubs have burned down and people still attend them, tower blocks have burned or collapsed and people still live in them. Smokers have died and people still smoke. One drone burning a house - just won't have the effect you suggest, or the world would look very different right now.