> So your argument is that debate and reasoning are futile, and the only way people can change their minds is stumbling upon conclusions? No, I'm saying "being

> So your argument is that debate and reasoning are futile, and the only way people can change their minds is stumbling upon conclusions? No, I'm saying "being that guy" doesn't work. You know "that guy". You've met him. He didn't convince you. Unless, you already agreed with him, that is. Then you probably didn't notice him as "that guy".