> This is an assertion. What harm is this lie causing? Anything more concrete than "it upsets the moral balance of the universe"? There is a whole social conte

> This is an assertion. What harm is this lie causing? Anything more concrete than "it upsets the moral balance of the universe"? There is a whole social context to it. It could teach people that it's ok to disrespect grieving people. Or a sliding scale that would eventually make lying ok in general and/or other contexts. On a societal scale these things do have a bigger impact even when in one case itself no damage seems to have been done. > Can you provide an example of a real harm, or of a real decision that would be affected by this? Not exactly because they're consequences beneath people's directly observable behaviour. It's also long term. The social the fabric in this world is actually important, even though I cannot quantify it.