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No descent is implied when numbers are used for monarchs and popes. John XXIII was the 23rd pope named John (20th century), a long time after John XXII in the 1
by tlb 7y ago
No descent is implied when numbers are used for monarchs and popes. John XXIII was the 23rd pope named John (20th century), a long time after John XXII in the 14th century. Queen Elizabeth II of England (current) is not a direct descendant from Queen Elizabeth I (16th century).
- thaumasiotes 7y agoDescent is implied, just not genealogical descent. John XXIII is the 23rd Pope John in the same line of papacy. Pope Benedict XIII (17th century) is the 13th Pope Benedict in that line, but Pope Benedict XIII (14th-15th century) was the 13th Pope Benedict in the line of Popes in Avignon. Henry IV of England was the fourth King Henry of England; Henry IV of France was the fourth King Henry of France; like the Popes, they are two different people tracked in two different lines of descent.
- badwolf 7y agoI suppose you could say it's similar with AKC dogs. Spot III the Chihuahua vs Spot III the Beagle
- thaumasiotes 7y agoWhat is the relationship between Spot III the beagle and Spot IV the beagle? There isn't one; they're named in parallel.