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I read it once and the part of what causing Type 2 Diabetes seems reasonable to me, however his advocate for extended fasting (namely, 36h+) sounds too aggressi
by iserlohnmage 7y ago
I read it once and the part of what causing Type 2 Diabetes seems reasonable to me, however his advocate for extended fasting (namely, 36h+) sounds too aggressive.
- theNJR 7y agoMore Western people should do multi day fasts. It really changes your relationship with food. Plus a million other positive things.
- qwsxyh 7y agoYes, it changes your relationship into a disordered one. HN, the website where willingly starving yourself for days on end is not an eating disorder
- jdietrich 7y agoI'm no fan of fad diets, but a lot of Westerners have a real problem with simply not knowing what hunger feels like. A lot of people are so habituated to large portions and frequent snacking that they're never meaningfully hungry, just somewhere on the spectrum between "reasonably sated" and "physically incapable of ingesting another morsel". Their eating habits have fundamentally broken the connection between food and sustenance. They've lost the ability to usefully distinguish between the body's natural hunger signals and other motivations for eating like habit, boredom and emotional self-soothing. I'm not wholly persuaded by the claims made about the health benefits of intermittent fasting, but I do think it's a potentially useful psychological experience if you have a problematic relationship with food.
- k__ 7y agoFor overweight and obese people it probably makes sense, but for the rest? I can't comprehend what benefit it should have "to know real hunger" if you're a perfectly healty human specimen.
- cco 7y agoWhy would you consider changing what you're doing if you are healthy? I don't think your comment makes sense.
- elil17 7y agoFor me, paying closer attention to how I’m feeling has helped me better identify when I’m hungry. I think starving yourself is a really extreme step to take that probably isn’t necessary
- brian_cunnie 7y ago> not knowing what hunger feels like True. I found that when I switched to a low-carb diet, my relationship with hunger changed. For one thing, I was always hungry: nothing makes you feel full like a good batch of carbs. But the hunger was similar to a low-grade background noise; it was fundamentally different than the I-gotta-eat-right-now hunger of the carbolicious diet. The other thing I noticed is that since I switched diets (7 years ago), I have never "bonked" (run into a wall because I was so hungry). I simply get more hungry, but again, it's more like the background noise gets louder. That begs the question, "Why not eat more if you're hungry?" The truth is that eating gets tiresome after a while. I remember spending over and hour shoving salad into my mouth and finally saying, "I need to get stuff done; I can't sit here all day eating salad." Yes, meat can fill me up if I eat enough of it (20 oz. prime rib), but I tire of meat after a while.
- newvoiceoldphne 7y agoEating more fats will cure the hunger.
- paulcole 7y agoI’ve long believed that intermittent fasting is just anorexia rebranded for tech bros. Think about it: 1. Creating arbitrary rules to restrict what is eaten and when. 2. Obsession with “bad” foods. 3. Unrealistic and unattainable “goal”: often life extension or some ideal of health/productivity.
- astura 7y agoPlenty of religious rituals involve fasting yet nobody considers those practitioners to have an eating disorder.
- elil17 7y agoYou do realize that, compared to eating too little, eating too much is really not that bad? Yes, starving yourself does change your relationship with food (in that it makes you hungry and miserable). And, for many people it can start a cycle of food related anxiety (an eating disorder). Perhaps some benefits do exist, but it’s wrong to advocate for fasting without fully addressing the serious health risks.
- chasil 7y agoMy parents both have type 2, and I fast every Sunday night until Tuesday morning. I don't think this makes me at all miserable, although it is easier if I stay busy. I also work a two mile walk into this. I'm thinking about asking my physician for metformin. I don't need it now, but in cryonics circles it is recognized for life extension properties.
- dennisgorelik 7y agoI routinely have 24+ hours fasts several times per week (essentially, 1 meal per day or less). It helps me to stay in shape.
- xfitm3 7y agoFasting helps you differentiate hunger vs impulse. Something that benefits almost everyone.
- brian_cunnie 7y agoType II diabetic here. I can personally attest that fasting is not necessary to control type II diabetes without medication. I'm strict about my diet, but I never fast. My numbers? My A1c was 8.7 when I was diagnosed, and now, seven years later, it hovers around 5.8 - 6.0 (high normal). I find fasting difficult, and I suspect that fasting comes more easy to some than to others. If it works for you, great, but if it doesn't, don't push it. I suspect that part of the difficulty is that I'm thin, so I don't have much in the way of reserves when I stop eating.
- chasil 7y agoYou may want to rethink that. There are possible benefits. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-39070183 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-39070183
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