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I think "deceiving title choice" is a bit strong. Of course you can name your dog whatever you want. I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought t

I think "deceiving title choice" is a bit strong. Of course you can name your dog whatever you want. I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought that there was some sort of global law requiring this. > That's much less interesting to me than the title suggests. I'm having a hard time imagining some more interesting, plausible thing that you thought the title suggested.

bscphil 7y ago
Fair enough, I suppose I should have worded my complaint the other way around. A better title would have been "Why only 37 dogs of each breed can have the same name registered at the American Kennel Club". Self-diagnosing a little, I think my skeptical attitude towards institutions is acting up here. It's weird to me when people use "name" when what they really mean is "name registered with institution X". I don't see why anyone should care what the AKC thinks of their dog's name, in kind of the same way that registering a name for a star in a star registry is similarly stupid.
- pvaldes 7y ago
  Because the name is the brand, and cames with many benefits attached for both the breeder and the buyer. For breeders, having your 'product' validated by a third part is a guarantee that is faithful to the breed, and increases its value. Having an unique name avoids scams also (Dishonest breeders can't enter in a competition with a dog named like your famous winner for example). More respectable breeders are supported by a third part and can sell their pups for more money. For buyers, you are allowed to participate in official dog competitions and win prizes; and, much more important, you have a guarantee that your dog will have a happy life free from pain and suffering. There is a public, transparent register showing absence or presence of main congenital diseases in the family of your pet. Will be your pet free from hip dysplasia in a few years? Will have a high probability of becoming deaf?. The breeder can't hide this important information to you. Having this info is a must for some dog breeds
  - ShlomoS 7y ago
    >you have a guarantee that your dog will have a happy life free from pain and suffering. What? There is absolutely no such guarantee involved. Registered pedigree dogs frequently have horrifying genetic problems in fact. https://vimeo.com/17558275 https://vimeo.com/17558275 >There is a public, transparent register showing absence or presence of main congenital diseases in the family of your pet. Where? There is an optional registry showing you did the "required testing" for a puppy you are selling, but the required testing is rarely useful. Having a random vet do a "Hip Evaluation" does nothing to guarantee your dog is not going to have hip dysplasia. Having an "Ophthalmologist Evaluation" does nothing to guarantee your dog won't develop glaucoma.
- tty2300 7y ago
  I was expecting some kind of statistics showing the common dog names and the number of dogs of each type kept as pets.
  - philshem 7y ago
    It’s in German, but here’s open data about dog names in the city of Zürich: https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen The CSV should be clear enough: https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen/resource/c1fd0489-19ef-47dd-9374-c4e702037c3c https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen/re...
    - walshemj 7y ago
      So German cities have employees /systems whose job it is to register dog names not totally sure that's the best use of taxpayers money - better bike lanes and electric charging infrastructure or even GASP better support for homeless people.
      - philshem 7y ago
        *Switzerland
      - tty2300 7y ago
        It is, the data also includes owner information so lost pets can be returned to their owners.
      - ThePadawan 7y ago
        Worth noting: Switzerland has a pet tax, so that obviously pays for it.
  - bonniemuffin 7y ago
    Same, I was expecting some kind of statistical analysis along the lines of the birthday paradox.
gloflo 7y ago
I expected some mathematical puzzle of some sort. And the problem sounded so unbelievable that it got my interest.
- bscphil 7y ago
  Yep. My initial guess was some kind of proof that it's extremely improbable to have more than 37 of the same name and breed for whatever reason. My second guess was that (in some country) it was legally required for breeders to name and register their dogs with some central agency. Both seemed somewhat plausible and more interesting than what it turned out to be.
jessriedel 7y ago
> I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought that there was some sort of global law requiring this. Sure, but it's exactly the desire to reduce the tension between what you know to be true and the title that makes clickbait effective. This could have also been a law from 1700 that was never enforced, or whatever.
toomuchequate 7y ago
>I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought that there was some sort of global law requiring this. I did! or at least US wide law.

bscphil 7y ago

Fair enough, I suppose I should have worded my complaint the other way around. A better title would have been "Why only 37 dogs of each breed can have the same name registered at the American Kennel Club". Self-diagnosing a little, I think my skeptical attitude towards institutions is acting up here. It's weird to me when people use "name" when what they really mean is "name registered with institution X". I don't see why anyone should care what the AKC thinks of their dog's name, in kind of the same way that registering a name for a star in a star registry is similarly stupid.

pvaldes 7y ago
Because the name is the brand, and cames with many benefits attached for both the breeder and the buyer. For breeders, having your 'product' validated by a third part is a guarantee that is faithful to the breed, and increases its value. Having an unique name avoids scams also (Dishonest breeders can't enter in a competition with a dog named like your famous winner for example). More respectable breeders are supported by a third part and can sell their pups for more money. For buyers, you are allowed to participate in official dog competitions and win prizes; and, much more important, you have a guarantee that your dog will have a happy life free from pain and suffering. There is a public, transparent register showing absence or presence of main congenital diseases in the family of your pet. Will be your pet free from hip dysplasia in a few years? Will have a high probability of becoming deaf?. The breeder can't hide this important information to you. Having this info is a must for some dog breeds
- ShlomoS 7y ago
  >you have a guarantee that your dog will have a happy life free from pain and suffering. What? There is absolutely no such guarantee involved. Registered pedigree dogs frequently have horrifying genetic problems in fact. https://vimeo.com/17558275 https://vimeo.com/17558275 >There is a public, transparent register showing absence or presence of main congenital diseases in the family of your pet. Where? There is an optional registry showing you did the "required testing" for a puppy you are selling, but the required testing is rarely useful. Having a random vet do a "Hip Evaluation" does nothing to guarantee your dog is not going to have hip dysplasia. Having an "Ophthalmologist Evaluation" does nothing to guarantee your dog won't develop glaucoma.
tty2300 7y ago
I was expecting some kind of statistics showing the common dog names and the number of dogs of each type kept as pets.
- philshem 7y ago
  It’s in German, but here’s open data about dog names in the city of Zürich: https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen The CSV should be clear enough: https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen/resource/c1fd0489-19ef-47dd-9374-c4e702037c3c https://data.stadt-zuerich.ch/dataset/pd-stapo-hundenamen/re...
  - walshemj 7y ago
    So German cities have employees /systems whose job it is to register dog names not totally sure that's the best use of taxpayers money - better bike lanes and electric charging infrastructure or even GASP better support for homeless people.
    - philshem 7y ago
      *Switzerland
    - tty2300 7y ago
      It is, the data also includes owner information so lost pets can be returned to their owners.
    - ThePadawan 7y ago
      Worth noting: Switzerland has a pet tax, so that obviously pays for it.
- bonniemuffin 7y ago
  Same, I was expecting some kind of statistical analysis along the lines of the birthday paradox.

gloflo 7y ago

I expected some mathematical puzzle of some sort. And the problem sounded so unbelievable that it got my interest.

bscphil 7y ago
Yep. My initial guess was some kind of proof that it's extremely improbable to have more than 37 of the same name and breed for whatever reason. My second guess was that (in some country) it was legally required for breeders to name and register their dogs with some central agency. Both seemed somewhat plausible and more interesting than what it turned out to be.

jessriedel 7y ago

> I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought that there was some sort of global law requiring this. Sure, but it's exactly the desire to reduce the tension between what you know to be true and the title that makes clickbait effective. This could have also been a law from 1700 that was never enforced, or whatever.

toomuchequate 7y ago

>I highly doubt that anyone read this and actually thought that there was some sort of global law requiring this. I did! or at least US wide law.