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I'm not the only person I know who would like a newer vehicle, and could afford one, but has opted for something made in the mid 90's. I can maintain it myself,

I'm not the only person I know who would like a newer vehicle, and could afford one, but has opted for something made in the mid 90's. I can maintain it myself, it doesn't have all the distracting BS, and comes with a full size spare. The car you describe is the only new car I could be convinced to buy. Until then, I'll be keeping the 90's alive.

bsder 7y ago
> I'm not the only person I know who would like a newer vehicle, and could afford one, but has opted for something made in the mid 90's. Just so you know, the safety improvements since the mid 90's have been quite substantial. There was a discussion recently (on HN, I believe) where a video was linked showing a collision between a mid 90's Accord and a modern equivalent. The results were quite astonishing, to me at least.
- pessimizer 7y ago
  It'd be nice if you could get the safety improvements without the UI changes, but as in software, that's not really in the interest of the manufacturer.
Grazester 7y ago
Cars from the mid to later 2000's have button and only had crappy touch screens for the inbuilt gps which is horrible. It was when the Tesla model S came out every manufacturer when screen crazy!
joncrane 7y ago
I've gone as high as mid-2000s and had no trouble doing the maintenance myself.
carterehsmith 7y ago
>> and comes with a full size spare I am curious, how often do you need a spare tire, full size or otherwise?
- frosted-flakes 7y ago
  Have you never gotten a flat tire? With a full size spare, it takes ten minutes to change, and you're on your way like nothing happened. With a doughnut or run-flats, you have to limp to a tire shop to repair the tire or get a new one, and if you don't have a spare at all, it's a serious inconvenience at best, and a crisis at worst.
  - carterehsmith 7y ago
    >>Have you never gotten a flat tire? That's the thing: I do get a punctured tire... sometimes. Maybe every 2-3 years. Not critical, just losing pressure. Not urgent. Last time, local shop fixed it for $28. They gave me a little freezer bag with the nail that they pulled out of the tire. Now, did I ever have a flat tire that needs a replacement like right now, with the spare tire? Well, I don't remember having that. In several decades of driving. For the record, I do go to service to get regular maintenance, so every like 3-4 years or so I change tires. I guess that helps.
    - NorthOf33rd 7y ago
      I'm completely happy hauling around a full size spare for a once in a decade blowout. Having that could easily save me 8 hours of frustration. Possibly more depending on where I am and what time it is. I'm not carrying it for if I get a slow leak on my work commute, I'm carrying it for when I'm taking forest roads in durango, or driving across nebraska at 2am. I carry a blanket and chains in winter for the same reasons.

bsder 7y ago

> I'm not the only person I know who would like a newer vehicle, and could afford one, but has opted for something made in the mid 90's. Just so you know, the safety improvements since the mid 90's have been quite substantial. There was a discussion recently (on HN, I believe) where a video was linked showing a collision between a mid 90's Accord and a modern equivalent. The results were quite astonishing, to me at least.

pessimizer 7y ago
It'd be nice if you could get the safety improvements without the UI changes, but as in software, that's not really in the interest of the manufacturer.

Grazester 7y ago

Cars from the mid to later 2000's have button and only had crappy touch screens for the inbuilt gps which is horrible. It was when the Tesla model S came out every manufacturer when screen crazy!

joncrane 7y ago

I've gone as high as mid-2000s and had no trouble doing the maintenance myself.

carterehsmith 7y ago

>> and comes with a full size spare I am curious, how often do you need a spare tire, full size or otherwise?

frosted-flakes 7y ago
Have you never gotten a flat tire? With a full size spare, it takes ten minutes to change, and you're on your way like nothing happened. With a doughnut or run-flats, you have to limp to a tire shop to repair the tire or get a new one, and if you don't have a spare at all, it's a serious inconvenience at best, and a crisis at worst.
- carterehsmith 7y ago
  >>Have you never gotten a flat tire? That's the thing: I do get a punctured tire... sometimes. Maybe every 2-3 years. Not critical, just losing pressure. Not urgent. Last time, local shop fixed it for $28. They gave me a little freezer bag with the nail that they pulled out of the tire. Now, did I ever have a flat tire that needs a replacement like right now, with the spare tire? Well, I don't remember having that. In several decades of driving. For the record, I do go to service to get regular maintenance, so every like 3-4 years or so I change tires. I guess that helps.
  - NorthOf33rd 7y ago
    I'm completely happy hauling around a full size spare for a once in a decade blowout. Having that could easily save me 8 hours of frustration. Possibly more depending on where I am and what time it is. I'm not carrying it for if I get a slow leak on my work commute, I'm carrying it for when I'm taking forest roads in durango, or driving across nebraska at 2am. I carry a blanket and chains in winter for the same reasons.