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This article is drivel. >how many of you pay at least 500rs/month for services that give you privacy It's my understanding that's between $7.00 and $8.00; I p
by verisimilitudes 7y ago
This article is drivel.
>how many of you pay at least 500rs/month for services that give you privacy
It's my understanding that's between $7.00 and $8.00; I pay less than half of that to have an entire server I use for things such as hosting my own email server for my personal use.
>Instead of paying for it, many of the people at the panel wanted the government to mandate it. Moreover, many people seemed to think it would somehow be free to provide.
I can understand why this would be looked down upon, but isn't this the manner of thing a government is intended to do? If we're going to pretend democracy is so great, then people wanting the government to outlaw certain business models is perfectly reasonable.
>Will you pay $20-50 a month to replace your free online services with privacy preserving ones?
I'll pay for a server and that's all. If I can no longer read some articles online because of a pay wall, then I won't, but I may if it's otherwise available to me gratis, but I still won't allow any JavaScript to run and so won't see any advertisements. If they dislike people not viewing advertisements, they should have a pay wall, but many of these organizations are aware people won't pay for what they offer.
>User tracking enables product managers/UI designers to figure out exactly what customers want, and give it to them.
They can go to Hell.
>A special case of fraud which also relates to the problem of paying for services with advertising is display network fraud. Here's how it works. I run "My Cool Awesome Website About Celebrities", and engage in all the trappings of a legitimate website - creating content, hiring editors, etc. Then I pay some kids in Ukraine to build bots that browse the site and click the ads. Instant money, at the expense of the advertisers.
This never ceases to amuse me, so far.
>To prevent this, the ad network demands the ability to spy on users in order to distinguish between bots and humans.
They can also go to Hell.
>Question: What does the government call a payment platform that provides privacy to it's users?
>Answer: Money laundering.
Money laundering is a made-up crime, just as with jaywalking and copyright infringement.
>In many cases, censorship authorities require social networks and others to track and notify them about people posting illegal content (Nazi imagery, child pornography, Savita Bhabhi, anti-Islamic content).
Oh, so the government makes rules that make something illegal, so the illegal thing is bad. Yes, I can't run a service that transfers money and is unmoderated, because it's illegal. I'm American and I'm well aware this ''freedom'' I enjoy is a lie.
>This is a fundamental collective action problem, and no player in the game seems to have the ability change things.
Right, governments conspire against their citizens, but this is an intractable problem.
>There are bad actors out there - fraudsters/scammers, terrorists laundering money, legal gun manufacturers moving money around, child pornographers, people who believe in evolution (even among humans), people advocating abandoning Islam, Russians posting Pepe memes, and journalists/revenge pornographers revealing truthful information that people want kept hidden. Any privacy preserving network, at it's core, allows these people to engage in these actions without interference.
Many of these things aren't like the others.
What utter foolishness.
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- ngold 7y agoPaying a third party for your privacy is a fools errand. If you want privacy, then use the tools on hand. Your credit card number is the last thing you should be sharing online with anyone if you value privacy.
- FluffyKitty 7y agoIs running a server really that cheap if you include the up front costs, maintenance, and your own time? What about the costs of having an offsite backup? As someone who also has their own personal server, I can definitely say it's not cheap.
- verisimilitudes 7y ago>Is running a server really that cheap if you include the up front costs, maintenance, and your own time? It's annoying, but it's still cheap. What ''up front costs'' do you mean? Maintenance is mostly me struggling with software someone else wrote and wanting to replace it with my own; the smaller services I run, Gopher and Finger, use software I wrote so I need not configure some awful software written by someone else. My goal is to eventually only run services with server software I've written, such as for email and FTP and whatnot. I have spare time and knowing how to maintain a server is useful. I'm clearly an advanced user, however. Still, I've offered others some things, not that they want them. I could host email for my family and whatnot if I needed to. >What about the costs of having an offsite backup? I use scp to transfer it to my machine. It's all measured in single digit megabytes. >As someone who also has their own personal server, I can definitely say it's not cheap. Okay. I don't know what you do with yours, but I run email, HTTP, Gopher, Finger, and I want to have FTP and Bittorrent available soon. The email server gives me the most problems, but that's mostly because of other email servers, as I didn't need to do much configuration and it's measured in hours rather than days. The HTTP is preconfigured and I've written the software I use for Gopher and Finger, although I want to replace it with better software I write, later.