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Does this feel like propaganda to anyone else?

marak830 7y ago
Yes, but then again I personally view a hell of a lot lately as propaganda. Which most is. Whether it's actually factual or click-bait is a whole 'nother story. Edit: fat thumb typos
noir_lord 7y ago
The weird thing with propaganda is that it can often be completely true in each part but represent a lie in totality. You run ten completely truthful stories about X doing something but no stories about Y doing the same thing. The perception then becomes skewed towards Y. Is manufacturing a PCB in China for a critical piece of defense equipment a security risk, possibly, it's also a possibility the same is true if they made that PCB in France or Israel or Japan (though I'm sure the threat curve is different). The other questions I'm curious about are things like, ignoring the F-35, how much other equipment in service is dependent on Chinese manufacturers - electronics are everywhere and China is the nations factory (of sub-assemblies at least).
- darkpuma 7y ago
  > "The weird thing with propaganda is that it can often be completely true in each part but represent a lie in totality." Propaganda can also straight up tell the truth. Propaganda, contrary to the impression given to many put through the public school system, is not a synonym for "lie". Propaganda is often lies, but being dishonest is not a defining characteristic of propaganda. One famous example: Loose lips sink ships. Okay, maybe that's a bit exaggerated, but it's generally pretty true. In a war, breaches in secrecy can easily cost lives. Those loose lips posters were still unambiguously propaganda though.
- oceanghost 7y ago
  "In the kingdom of lies, the truth is treason."
jm4 7y ago
It’s just a random guy with a blog. This isn’t Forbes reporting. It’s a contributor site. You pay to become a contributor and you can post whatever you want. There’s no fact checking here. No investigative reporting. This is literally just a blog and designed to look like a legitimate news story from Forbes. Frankly, I think, for that reason, Forbes contributor sites should be banned here.

Yes, but then again I personally view a hell of a lot lately as propaganda. Which most is. Whether it's actually factual or click-bait is a whole 'nother story. Edit: fat thumb typos

noir_lord 7y ago

The weird thing with propaganda is that it can often be completely true in each part but represent a lie in totality. You run ten completely truthful stories about X doing something but no stories about Y doing the same thing. The perception then becomes skewed towards Y. Is manufacturing a PCB in China for a critical piece of defense equipment a security risk, possibly, it's also a possibility the same is true if they made that PCB in France or Israel or Japan (though I'm sure the threat curve is different). The other questions I'm curious about are things like, ignoring the F-35, how much other equipment in service is dependent on Chinese manufacturers - electronics are everywhere and China is the nations factory (of sub-assemblies at least).

darkpuma 7y ago
> "The weird thing with propaganda is that it can often be completely true in each part but represent a lie in totality." Propaganda can also straight up tell the truth. Propaganda, contrary to the impression given to many put through the public school system, is not a synonym for "lie". Propaganda is often lies, but being dishonest is not a defining characteristic of propaganda. One famous example: Loose lips sink ships. Okay, maybe that's a bit exaggerated, but it's generally pretty true. In a war, breaches in secrecy can easily cost lives. Those loose lips posters were still unambiguously propaganda though.
oceanghost 7y ago
"In the kingdom of lies, the truth is treason."

jm4 7y ago

It’s just a random guy with a blog. This isn’t Forbes reporting. It’s a contributor site. You pay to become a contributor and you can post whatever you want. There’s no fact checking here. No investigative reporting. This is literally just a blog and designed to look like a legitimate news story from Forbes. Frankly, I think, for that reason, Forbes contributor sites should be banned here.