I don't know, on the one hand, JavaScript is without doubt neccessary for a lot of useful things on the web. OTOH, I always thought of JavaScript as a way to ge

I don't know, on the one hand, JavaScript is without doubt neccessary for a lot of useful things on the web. OTOH, I always thought of JavaScript as a way to get a better declarative web long term, by experimenting with UI paradigms and trying things that eventually can become part of new declarative HTML UIs. But that feedback into HTML never happened, and it seems we're stuck with an incredibly poor language we're enslaving the next generation of both users and developers in. The worst part is IMHO where we attempt to shoehorn JavaScript into a "serious" language with ES6+ classes, modules, new syntaxes, type decorators and what not; all we've achieved with these inessential extensions is to make future browser implementer's life difficult. I haven't listened to the audio, but all it takes to get rid of JavaScript-heavy pages (that only exist because young webdevs are being taught and drool about mostly JavaScript, React, and other overkill rather than web basics), we just need to step up the game and demand power-efficient webapps, or no webapps at all.