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You can hardly describe it as "attacking a group". At the time moot got tired of these people crying 24/7 on /v/, the video games board. moot has frequently ex
by nemothekid 7y ago
You can hardly describe it as "attacking a group". At the time moot got tired of these people crying 24/7 on /v/, the video games board.
moot has frequently exercised his unique power to ban a topic to prevent a single topic from overrunning a board. And, like the other chans before it, those most invested in that topic have a huge persecution complex and believe they are being censored when they are simple being told to take their soapbox elsewhere.
- meruru 7y agoCall it whatever you want, it's painfully obvious to me that things like feminist activism have fueled the rise of the alt-right. I say this as someone who was a regular on 4chan during the gamergate fiasco and watched it happen.
- anigbrowl 7y agoSure, if you take alt-right victimology at face value.
- meruru 7y agoI'm not sure I understand your point, can you explain it?
- anigbrowl 7y ago'Taking something at face value' means accepting it uncritically, but sometimes skepticism is warranted.
- meruru 7y agoI understand the saying, I don't understand the point. Is it that the "victimology" is completely feigned and contribute nothing to attract more people to their cause? I'm sure a lot of it is feigned, but they keep doing it because it works.
- anigbrowl 7y agoYes. Obviously it's impossible to assess every anonymous poster but examples abound of IRL right-wing extremists who use this as a gambit but whose private chats etc. reveal their insincerity.
- shearskill 7y agoGamergate was fueled by outside interests way beyond “ethics in journalism” and anger at feminist game critics. The online outrage was easily led down a much broader path. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism#.rv7qnQN75 https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/heres-h...
- meruru 7y agoI agree there were many other factors, but do you think anger at the other side's actions didn't also play a major role?
- deogeo 7y ago> have a huge persecution complex and believe they are being censored when they are simple being told to take their soapbox elsewhere. How many places do you have to get kicked out of before your 'belief' that you're being censored becomes true?
- nemothekid 7y agoDepends. How many places does it take for you to get kicked out of before you start thinking to yourself 'maybe I'm the asshole?'.
- danbolt 7y agoHow many places do you have to be accommodated by people that don't want to hear it?
- deogeo 7y agoReplying to both you and the sibling comment: Feel free to claim that they are assholes, or that people shouldn't have to accommodate them. But that doesn't falsify the claim that they're being censored.
- danbolt 7y agoIt’s not usually what comes to mind when I think of the word “censored”, but I don’t think it’s unrealistic for a forum or conversation to set ground rules on what’s acceptable speech and isn’t.
- jmcqk6 7y agoI have no desire to listen to people I consider to be assholes. I have no problem censuring those people in my life. There is no right to be an asshole. If you're going to be shitty towards other people, you should not expect a positive reaction from them. You should probably expect to be treated shitty in return. That's basically the golden rule. Instead there is a bunch of people who believe their shitty behavior is completely justified and righteous and then can't comprehend why people don't want to tolerate them. I have no sympathy for that, whatever language you want to use. Call it censorship if you want, but there is no rule nor law that says shitty behavior has to be tolerated and supported.