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I'm not sure I agree with that because of one thing: commutes. How long was your grandma's commute from her empty hill to the places she wanted to go 56 years

I'm not sure I agree with that because of one thing: commutes. How long was your grandma's commute from her empty hill to the places she wanted to go 56 years ago? How long is a commute from some empty hill in the east bay to downtown SF today? People would be really happy to move to some run-down emptyish area if it didn't mean the tradeoff of 3+ hours a day wasted. It's also important to note that 56 years ago economic opportunities tended to be spread out a lot more than they are today, so it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

souprock 7y ago
You'd commute the same distance, from your east bay empty hill to an east bay downtown. Make it succeed, and make your neighborhood desirable. In case that looks impossible, remember that SF itself was nothing special. It was an industrial sort of place.