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Somewhat related is this latest supposed attack by Iranians on the two Japanese tankers... now one of the Japanese tanker owners is saying it was a projectile w

Somewhat related is this latest supposed attack by Iranians on the two Japanese tankers... now one of the Japanese tanker owners is saying it was a projectile while US Centcom says it's limpet mines.

maxxxxx 7y ago
We definitely don't want to get into another situation like after 9/11 when some people did everything they could to connect Iraq to 9/11 so they could invade. Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.
- brians 7y ago
  The national security advisor and the Secretary of State.
  - maxxxxx 7y ago
    Pompeo seems pretty sane to me. Bolton is another question. very true.
    - danharaj 7y ago
      > Pompeo seems pretty sane to me. So did Colin Powell.
      - maxxxxx 7y ago
        My impression was that Powell let himself being bullied into it. Which is not good either.
    - aaronbrethorst 7y ago
      Pompeo believes in dispensational premillennialism. Which is to say that he thinks the world will end in literal Armageddon when the Antichrist comes to earth and the forces of Heaven and Hell do battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel. Of course, Pompeo will have been swept up in the Rapture, so he'll be a-ok. And yes, it sounds utterly insane to me too. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/26/americas-islamophobia-is-forged-in-the-pulpit/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/26/americas-islamophobia-i... For more background on dispensational premillennialism, check out https://crooked.com/podcast/karma-magnificent-btch-w-diana-butler-bass-rick-wilson/ https://crooked.com/podcast/karma-magnificent-btch-w-diana-b...
- twothumbsup 7y ago
  > Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. Their name is John Bolton and they're the National Security Advisor of the USA.
  - danharaj 7y ago
    They really need to stop letting that guy anywhere near the whitehouse.
  - hurrdurr2 7y ago
    That man is pure calculated evil. There is not a single US foreign adversary he would not like to blow up.
- pjc50 7y ago
  They're the same people as last time, more or less.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  > Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    >I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living. Those same people spent the later part of the Obama years drooling over the idea that relations with Iran would thaw enough that they'd be able to make a killing selling to both sides of the Iran/Israel standoff.
- scottlocklin 7y ago
  > . Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. Erm, yes, there are. Saudis, Israelis and the MEK are hell bent for us to go to war with Iran. They've also publically greased John "neocon mustache boy" Bolton, who will hopefully be looking for a job soon.
- krapp 7y ago
  > Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. Iraq, then Iran, then North Korea. That's been the plan ever since 9/11.
  - thephyber 7y ago
    IIRC, it was retired General Wesley Clark who stated[1] in an interview that someone he knew at the Pentagon told him about plans that had already been drawn up to attack 7 Middle Eastern countries: > We're going to take out seven countries in five years.' And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran. [1] https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/ https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/
    - acqq 7y ago
      It's an apparent plan from 2001: > And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran." While Clark doesn't name the other four countries, he has mentioned in televised interviews that the hit list included Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan Iraq, 2003. Libya happened in Obama time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... Syrian war also started in 2011.
DuskStar 7y ago
IIRC the Japanese tanker owner misidentified what side of the ship was damaged, so I wouldn't place too much weight on his words.

Somewhat related is this latest supposed attack by Iranians on the two Japanese tankers... now one of the Japanese tanker owners is saying it was a projectile while US Centcom says it's limpet mines.

maxxxxx 7y ago

We definitely don't want to get into another situation like after 9/11 when some people did everything they could to connect Iraq to 9/11 so they could invade. Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not.

brians 7y ago
The national security advisor and the Secretary of State.
- maxxxxx 7y ago
  Pompeo seems pretty sane to me. Bolton is another question. very true.
  - danharaj 7y ago
    > Pompeo seems pretty sane to me. So did Colin Powell.
    - maxxxxx 7y ago
      My impression was that Powell let himself being bullied into it. Which is not good either.
  - aaronbrethorst 7y ago
    Pompeo believes in dispensational premillennialism. Which is to say that he thinks the world will end in literal Armageddon when the Antichrist comes to earth and the forces of Heaven and Hell do battle on the plains of Megiddo in Israel. Of course, Pompeo will have been swept up in the Rapture, so he'll be a-ok. And yes, it sounds utterly insane to me too. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/26/americas-islamophobia-is-forged-in-the-pulpit/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/03/26/americas-islamophobia-i... For more background on dispensational premillennialism, check out https://crooked.com/podcast/karma-magnificent-btch-w-diana-butler-bass-rick-wilson/ https://crooked.com/podcast/karma-magnificent-btch-w-diana-b...
twothumbsup 7y ago
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. Their name is John Bolton and they're the National Security Advisor of the USA.
- danharaj 7y ago
  They really need to stop letting that guy anywhere near the whitehouse.
- hurrdurr2 7y ago
  That man is pure calculated evil. There is not a single US foreign adversary he would not like to blow up.
pjc50 7y ago
They're the same people as last time, more or less.
Gibbon1 7y ago
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  >I have bad news for you. The same people are pushing for war then are pushing for war now because that's how they make their living. Those same people spent the later part of the Obama years drooling over the idea that relations with Iran would thaw enough that they'd be able to make a killing selling to both sides of the Iran/Israel standoff.
scottlocklin 7y ago
> . Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. Erm, yes, there are. Saudis, Israelis and the MEK are hell bent for us to go to war with Iran. They've also publically greased John "neocon mustache boy" Bolton, who will hopefully be looking for a job soon.
krapp 7y ago
> Not sure if there are people right now who are hellbent to go to war Iran. I hope not. Iraq, then Iran, then North Korea. That's been the plan ever since 9/11.
- thephyber 7y ago
  IIRC, it was retired General Wesley Clark who stated[1] in an interview that someone he knew at the Pentagon told him about plans that had already been drawn up to attack 7 Middle Eastern countries: > We're going to take out seven countries in five years.' And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran. [1] https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/ https://www.salon.com/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/
  - acqq 7y ago
    It's an apparent plan from 2001: > And he named them, starting with Iraq and Syria and ending with Iran." While Clark doesn't name the other four countries, he has mentioned in televised interviews that the hit list included Lebanon, Libya, Somalia and Sudan Iraq, 2003. Libya happened in Obama time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_... Syrian war also started in 2011.

DuskStar 7y ago

IIRC the Japanese tanker owner misidentified what side of the ship was damaged, so I wouldn't place too much weight on his words.