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This seems good on the surface, but I can't imagine top tier talent at a FANG or equivalent ever leaving their job to do this. I feel this filter will only lea

This seems good on the surface, but I can't imagine top tier talent at a FANG or equivalent ever leaving their job to do this. I feel this filter will only leave behind those who are currently contractors that are interested in maybe going full time, and the unemployed/employed who are desperate enough to go along with such a scheme. Foregoing the typical crappy interview process is one thing, but working, even for money, without any certainty as the end outcome would certainly turn me off. To be honest, this setup seems like something that would be hatched by a scummy company to constantly string you along with a carrot that will never come. I am not implying that you are that type, but there are enough horror stories out there that I would avoid ever getting myself put into that position.

mixmastamyk 7y ago
> top tier talent at... Must be looking to get out for some reason. Doing a small side-project shouldn't be a big impediment. > I would avoid ever getting myself put into that position. Extreme risk-averse behavior can cause problems on the other side. Easy enough to give a small-project a try and cut out early when red-flags are actually encountered. Just the cost of doing business, IMHO.
- kevstev 7y ago
  They may be looking to get out, but you are essentially asking them to leave their current job so they can spend a month (or whatever) on a paid interview at your company. You are not only giving up your previous job, you are essentially giving up your ability to interview elsewhere as well. If this doesn't work out, either because you don't like me, or I don't like you, your business, the tech stack, whatever, I am now in a really shitty position, I am giving up what little leverage an employee has in the labor market- the ability to look for a job and say no without worrying about paying his bills. If you are doing well at a company, I am not sure how you make this seem like a good value proposition, especially in this tech job market. Another way to put it, with a personal spin- I don't work at an actual FANG, but a company that arguably pays better, and their would have to be a very large upside at the other end of this process to make it worth going through. Things would have to be very bad for me to give me up my deep in the six figure job to spend a month interviewing at some place unless it had some legendary track record. This is all theoretical though and not really worth arguing over. I'd like to see OP try this out and report back the results, good or bad. I could be wrong, but I would be willing to wager that you get a lot more resumes just out of a bootcamp as opposed to people with proven track records currently at prestigious companies.
  - mixmastamyk 7y ago
    Not sure what the other guy implied, but that’s not what I had in mind. Rather a side project type of thing. Little risk for anyone. No one has to quit.

mixmastamyk 7y ago

> top tier talent at... Must be looking to get out for some reason. Doing a small side-project shouldn't be a big impediment. > I would avoid ever getting myself put into that position. Extreme risk-averse behavior can cause problems on the other side. Easy enough to give a small-project a try and cut out early when red-flags are actually encountered. Just the cost of doing business, IMHO.

kevstev 7y ago
They may be looking to get out, but you are essentially asking them to leave their current job so they can spend a month (or whatever) on a paid interview at your company. You are not only giving up your previous job, you are essentially giving up your ability to interview elsewhere as well. If this doesn't work out, either because you don't like me, or I don't like you, your business, the tech stack, whatever, I am now in a really shitty position, I am giving up what little leverage an employee has in the labor market- the ability to look for a job and say no without worrying about paying his bills. If you are doing well at a company, I am not sure how you make this seem like a good value proposition, especially in this tech job market. Another way to put it, with a personal spin- I don't work at an actual FANG, but a company that arguably pays better, and their would have to be a very large upside at the other end of this process to make it worth going through. Things would have to be very bad for me to give me up my deep in the six figure job to spend a month interviewing at some place unless it had some legendary track record. This is all theoretical though and not really worth arguing over. I'd like to see OP try this out and report back the results, good or bad. I could be wrong, but I would be willing to wager that you get a lot more resumes just out of a bootcamp as opposed to people with proven track records currently at prestigious companies.
- mixmastamyk 7y ago
  Not sure what the other guy implied, but that’s not what I had in mind. Rather a side project type of thing. Little risk for anyone. No one has to quit.