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What GPL means here? This paragraph in README also baffles me: > 'Can I Use [insert thing here]?' > As long as the material is not copyrighted - e.g. the sam

by jxy 7y ago

What GPL means here? This paragraph in README also baffles me: > 'Can I Use [insert thing here]?' > As long as the material is not copyrighted - e.g. the samples themselves - I encourage you to take whatever you can use from this project, however you can, for your own works - including for-profit works - once again - as long as no copyrighted content is used.

viklove 7y ago
Seems like it's not just engineers who have trouble with documentation. That sentence isn't remotely comprehensible.
lostgame 7y ago
I'm personally having troubles with understanding what to do about the licensing around this thing. What I'm trying to say, is you can use whatever of my own content you'd like - but obviously samples like 'Lolita Ya Ya' by Nelson Riddle are copyrighted works, and, while the transformations I've applied to the samples and the lack of profit probably clear me, the actual audio files containing the copyrighted samples are only up there because the songs sound often very incomplete without them. Since I'm making no profit off of this whatsoever, and am, in fact, trying to give away a lot of my work to the community, I'm kinda just hoping I won't get a C&D for the samples. :P
floatingatoll 7y ago
Translating the hyphens to parentheses may help - hyphenation is often used to represent spoken English when it contains several fragments chained into a paragraph such as this. > As long as the material is not copyrighted (e.g. the samples themselves) I encourage you to take whatever you can use from this project, however you can, for your own works (including for-profit works). Once again - as long as no copyrighted content is used.
- lostgame 7y ago
  If you don't mind, I'm actually going to modify the GitHub's description to match yours. I'm an artist and a coder, not a linguist. ;)
  - mreome 7y ago
    Unfortunately, even with the clarified wording this explanation doesn’t say what I think it’s intended to. All the material in the repo is under copyright. A work licensed under the GPL is still under copyright, and the granting and enforcement of the GPL (mainly the requirement that derivative works are released under the GPL) is only possible because of that copyright. To not be bound by copyright, the copyright must be waived, and it’s still not entirely clear if/how that is possible (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Granting_work_into_the_public_domain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Granting_work_into_t...).
    - floatingatoll 7y ago
      I don’t intend to alter or speak on behalf of the artist, who is responding to HN comments elsethread, but simply to present a useful before/after translation tactic for parsing complex hyphenated paragraphs.
  - floatingatoll 7y ago
    Oh uh sure I don’t mind! I hope I did it justice

by jxy 7y ago

viklove 7y ago

Seems like it's not just engineers who have trouble with documentation. That sentence isn't remotely comprehensible.

lostgame 7y ago

I'm personally having troubles with understanding what to do about the licensing around this thing. What I'm trying to say, is you can use whatever of my own content you'd like - but obviously samples like 'Lolita Ya Ya' by Nelson Riddle are copyrighted works, and, while the transformations I've applied to the samples and the lack of profit probably clear me, the actual audio files containing the copyrighted samples are only up there because the songs sound often very incomplete without them. Since I'm making no profit off of this whatsoever, and am, in fact, trying to give away a lot of my work to the community, I'm kinda just hoping I won't get a C&D for the samples. :P

floatingatoll 7y ago

Translating the hyphens to parentheses may help - hyphenation is often used to represent spoken English when it contains several fragments chained into a paragraph such as this. > As long as the material is not copyrighted (e.g. the samples themselves) I encourage you to take whatever you can use from this project, however you can, for your own works (including for-profit works). Once again - as long as no copyrighted content is used.

lostgame 7y ago
If you don't mind, I'm actually going to modify the GitHub's description to match yours. I'm an artist and a coder, not a linguist. ;)
- mreome 7y ago
  Unfortunately, even with the clarified wording this explanation doesn’t say what I think it’s intended to. All the material in the repo is under copyright. A work licensed under the GPL is still under copyright, and the granting and enforcement of the GPL (mainly the requirement that derivative works are released under the GPL) is only possible because of that copyright. To not be bound by copyright, the copyright must be waived, and it’s still not entirely clear if/how that is possible (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Granting_work_into_the_public_domain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Granting_work_into_t...).
  - floatingatoll 7y ago
    I don’t intend to alter or speak on behalf of the artist, who is responding to HN comments elsethread, but simply to present a useful before/after translation tactic for parsing complex hyphenated paragraphs.
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  Oh uh sure I don’t mind! I hope I did it justice