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> they generally do require programming knowledge Yes > probably an algorithm here and there No Even Amazon doesn't ask about algorithms for DevOps. When I

> they generally do require programming knowledge Yes > probably an algorithm here and there No Even Amazon doesn't ask about algorithms for DevOps. When I interviewed with them for a DevOps position, they asked me to write a Python script to parse logs files. They also asked about various linux commands that you would use to work with those same logs. Pretty relevant. But the interviewer never once asked about algorithms or anything like that. My current company gave me a take-home test to build out a solution that deploys a code package. Best interview question/task I've ever had. It was hard, but I got to show off my real skills. Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing.

reallydontask 7y ago
>Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing. I think it's a more a case of cargo culting rather than not necessarily knowing what they are doing, although that might also be the case in some instances.
- bwoj 7y ago
  Cargo-culting is literally not knowing what you're doing.
  - reallydontask 7y ago
    What i meant is that they are cargo culting in their interviewing method but this does not necessarily mean that they don't know what they are doing day to day.
  - rswail 7y ago
    Cargo culting is knowing exactly what you are doing, but having a completely incorrect understanding of the potential result.
- stallmanite 7y ago
  If you’re cargo culting do you really know what you’re doing though? I’d think the two situations are mutually exclusive. Or were cargo cults actually effective at getting supplies dropped from the sky?
52-6F-62 7y ago
Hm. I spoke with Amazon (AWS) recently (haven't interviewed yet), and they made the express point that if I were to accept an interview that I should brush up on my algos and HackerRank questions because they loved HackerRank and would surely use a series of those-style problems throughout the interview process. My last in-depth interview was a take-home/collaborative project (paid) for a smaller company here in Canada. It was a great experience. So good on you.
- diminoten 7y ago
  It's probably per-team, someone on here mentioned that's how Google works at least. Someone I know did an AWS interview round during business school, and they do this thing called "bar raising" (IIRC) that involves one of the interviewers literally doing something unpleasant to see how you react (e.g. picking their teeth in the camera, cutting you off when you speak). Very odd.
  - umanwizard 7y ago
    I have worked at Amazon, and can categorically say that this description of their interview process is false.
    - diminoten 7y ago
      Like false as in I made it up or false as in it's not your experience?
      - umanwizard 7y ago
        False as in not true. Amazon does not have a policy of interviewers intentionally making candidates uncomfortable.
        diminoten 7y ago
        Ah, well then what was I being told? I got these independent reports form literally every single person I spoke to who interviewed with Amazon. I also just spoke with my wife and she re-confirmed it. So I guess I'm wondering what these people who I respect are experiencing...

reallydontask 7y ago

>Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing. I think it's a more a case of cargo culting rather than not necessarily knowing what they are doing, although that might also be the case in some instances.

bwoj 7y ago
Cargo-culting is literally not knowing what you're doing.
- reallydontask 7y ago
  What i meant is that they are cargo culting in their interviewing method but this does not necessarily mean that they don't know what they are doing day to day.
- rswail 7y ago
  Cargo culting is knowing exactly what you are doing, but having a completely incorrect understanding of the potential result.
stallmanite 7y ago
If you’re cargo culting do you really know what you’re doing though? I’d think the two situations are mutually exclusive. Or were cargo cults actually effective at getting supplies dropped from the sky?

52-6F-62 7y ago

Hm. I spoke with Amazon (AWS) recently (haven't interviewed yet), and they made the express point that if I were to accept an interview that I should brush up on my algos and HackerRank questions because they loved HackerRank and would surely use a series of those-style problems throughout the interview process. My last in-depth interview was a take-home/collaborative project (paid) for a smaller company here in Canada. It was a great experience. So good on you.

diminoten 7y ago
It's probably per-team, someone on here mentioned that's how Google works at least. Someone I know did an AWS interview round during business school, and they do this thing called "bar raising" (IIRC) that involves one of the interviewers literally doing something unpleasant to see how you react (e.g. picking their teeth in the camera, cutting you off when you speak). Very odd.
- umanwizard 7y ago
  I have worked at Amazon, and can categorically say that this description of their interview process is false.
  - diminoten 7y ago
    Like false as in I made it up or false as in it's not your experience?
    - umanwizard 7y ago
      False as in not true. Amazon does not have a policy of interviewers intentionally making candidates uncomfortable.
      - diminoten 7y ago
        Ah, well then what was I being told? I got these independent reports form literally every single person I spoke to who interviewed with Amazon. I also just spoke with my wife and she re-confirmed it. So I guess I'm wondering what these people who I respect are experiencing...