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I guess if you don't like the company's interviewing process you don't have to work there. Unemployment rate for software engineers is pretty low these days so

I guess if you don't like the company's interviewing process you don't have to work there. Unemployment rate for software engineers is pretty low these days so just go with somewhere else. I'll keep working at places that ask programming questions because basically all the highest-paying places do that these days. And as snobby as it sounds, I want to keep working with other people who can pass algorithms teasers Also, yeah probably no dev-ops position really requires knowledge of DP. But they generally do require programming knowledge and probably an algorithm here and there so it's not entirely inappropriate

itake 7y ago
I'd be frustrated for wasting my time. The recruiter should have better explained the review process.
- opportune 7y ago
  Palantir is pretty well known for giving algorithms problems so it would have likely been solved by a cursory google "palantir software engineering interview"
  - vonmoltke 7y ago
    Why would I search for software engineering interviews if I'm applying to be an IT systems engineer?
    - NikolaeVarius 7y ago
      Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding.
      - vonmoltke 7y ago
        To me, there is a pretty large gap between "interview questions to test the basics of coding" and "software engineer interview questions". Searching for the latter to find the former is like search for copywriter interviews to study for questions on basic English proficiency.
      - wolfgke 7y ago
        > Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding. LeetCode questions test for other things than "basics of coding".
      - zrobotics 7y ago
        Wouldn't "the basics of coding" be something like knowing how to read/write a short python/bash script to automate a task? Algorithms questions ala leetcode are far higher level than the basics.
    - opportune 7y ago
      I guess there is a disconnect where some people don't think dev-ops people are software engineers and others do. I fall in the latter camp and have never worked with devops people who weren't also software engineers
      - vonmoltke 7y ago
        Fair enough. I think it is the responsibility of the recruiter or the company to clarify which they expect for a particular position, though.
- scardine 7y ago
  Check glassdoor for this company/position, looks like most people think it is a difficult interview process: https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Palantir-Technologies-Deployment-Strategist-Interview-Questions-EI_IE236375.0,21_KO22,43.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Palantir-Technologies-De...
shepardrtc 7y ago
> they generally do require programming knowledge Yes > probably an algorithm here and there No Even Amazon doesn't ask about algorithms for DevOps. When I interviewed with them for a DevOps position, they asked me to write a Python script to parse logs files. They also asked about various linux commands that you would use to work with those same logs. Pretty relevant. But the interviewer never once asked about algorithms or anything like that. My current company gave me a take-home test to build out a solution that deploys a code package. Best interview question/task I've ever had. It was hard, but I got to show off my real skills. Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing.
- reallydontask 7y ago
  >Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing. I think it's a more a case of cargo culting rather than not necessarily knowing what they are doing, although that might also be the case in some instances.
  - bwoj 7y ago
    Cargo-culting is literally not knowing what you're doing.
    - reallydontask 7y ago
      What i meant is that they are cargo culting in their interviewing method but this does not necessarily mean that they don't know what they are doing day to day.
    - rswail 7y ago
      Cargo culting is knowing exactly what you are doing, but having a completely incorrect understanding of the potential result.
  - stallmanite 7y ago
    If you’re cargo culting do you really know what you’re doing though? I’d think the two situations are mutually exclusive. Or were cargo cults actually effective at getting supplies dropped from the sky?
threwawasy1228 7y ago
Can you or anyone cite where you have read that the unemployment rate for software engineers is low? I'd love to see it but I'm not able to find much trying to search for a citation on this point. I'm not sure that it is actually low, but this seems to be a common parlance amongst recruiters.

itake 7y ago

I'd be frustrated for wasting my time. The recruiter should have better explained the review process.

opportune 7y ago
Palantir is pretty well known for giving algorithms problems so it would have likely been solved by a cursory google "palantir software engineering interview"
- vonmoltke 7y ago
  Why would I search for software engineering interviews if I'm applying to be an IT systems engineer?
  - NikolaeVarius 7y ago
    Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding.
    - vonmoltke 7y ago
      To me, there is a pretty large gap between "interview questions to test the basics of coding" and "software engineer interview questions". Searching for the latter to find the former is like search for copywriter interviews to study for questions on basic English proficiency.
    - wolfgke 7y ago
      > Because these days "IT Systems Manager" are expected to know basics of coding. LeetCode questions test for other things than "basics of coding".
    - zrobotics 7y ago
      Wouldn't "the basics of coding" be something like knowing how to read/write a short python/bash script to automate a task? Algorithms questions ala leetcode are far higher level than the basics.
  - opportune 7y ago
    I guess there is a disconnect where some people don't think dev-ops people are software engineers and others do. I fall in the latter camp and have never worked with devops people who weren't also software engineers
    - vonmoltke 7y ago
      Fair enough. I think it is the responsibility of the recruiter or the company to clarify which they expect for a particular position, though.
scardine 7y ago
Check glassdoor for this company/position, looks like most people think it is a difficult interview process: https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Palantir-Technologies-Deployment-Strategist-Interview-Questions-EI_IE236375.0,21_KO22,43.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Palantir-Technologies-De...

shepardrtc 7y ago

> they generally do require programming knowledge Yes > probably an algorithm here and there No Even Amazon doesn't ask about algorithms for DevOps. When I interviewed with them for a DevOps position, they asked me to write a Python script to parse logs files. They also asked about various linux commands that you would use to work with those same logs. Pretty relevant. But the interviewer never once asked about algorithms or anything like that. My current company gave me a take-home test to build out a solution that deploys a code package. Best interview question/task I've ever had. It was hard, but I got to show off my real skills. Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing.

reallydontask 7y ago
>Companies that ask leet coding questions for DevOps probably have no idea what they're looking for and probably don't know what they're doing. I think it's a more a case of cargo culting rather than not necessarily knowing what they are doing, although that might also be the case in some instances.
- bwoj 7y ago
  Cargo-culting is literally not knowing what you're doing.
  - reallydontask 7y ago
    What i meant is that they are cargo culting in their interviewing method but this does not necessarily mean that they don't know what they are doing day to day.
  - rswail 7y ago
    Cargo culting is knowing exactly what you are doing, but having a completely incorrect understanding of the potential result.
- stallmanite 7y ago
  If you’re cargo culting do you really know what you’re doing though? I’d think the two situations are mutually exclusive. Or were cargo cults actually effective at getting supplies dropped from the sky?

threwawasy1228 7y ago

Can you or anyone cite where you have read that the unemployment rate for software engineers is low? I'd love to see it but I'm not able to find much trying to search for a citation on this point. I'm not sure that it is actually low, but this seems to be a common parlance amongst recruiters.