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When the free market is in charge the results aren't much better, why not have another go at the government approach and learn from our mistakes?

by fifnir 7y ago

icxa 7y ago
The free market is responsible for the biggest large-scale change in sustainable farming and organic produce, meats, and dairy we have seen so far, why not double down on that and accelerate the progress made? If you would have told me 10 years ago that organic produce, meats, and dairy would be commonplace in a Walmart grocery store, I would have laughed, but here we are. Conversely it is only through large government subsidies of corn and soy that we have all these cheap, non-nutritious soy and corn byproduct snacks that fill 80-90% of grocery store isles, of which the free market, driven by consumer demand for something different, has now started to penetrate even the snack isles. For example, pea snacks are all the rage now, and I see way more pea snacks, pea crisps, etc than ever before at my local chain store.
- fifnir 7y ago
  You know that "organic" is pretty much a bullshit marketing term right? > large government subsidies of corn and soy That's not exactly what leftists fight for when they fight for government money. Gut those, gut those hard I don't care. Is the government behind the sugar lobby too? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-in... Is the government now bringing all the unhealthy things from the West to developing countries? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil-obesity-nestle.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4092629 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4092629 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8161771 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8161771 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1363897/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1363897/ Or is it the free market looking for a new source of dollar at the expense of people's health ?

When the free market is in charge the results aren't much better, why not have another go at the government approach and learn from our mistakes?

by fifnir 7y ago

When the free market is in charge the results aren't much better, why not have another go at the government approach and learn from our mistakes?

icxa 7y ago

The free market is responsible for the biggest large-scale change in sustainable farming and organic produce, meats, and dairy we have seen so far, why not double down on that and accelerate the progress made? If you would have told me 10 years ago that organic produce, meats, and dairy would be commonplace in a Walmart grocery store, I would have laughed, but here we are. Conversely it is only through large government subsidies of corn and soy that we have all these cheap, non-nutritious soy and corn byproduct snacks that fill 80-90% of grocery store isles, of which the free market, driven by consumer demand for something different, has now started to penetrate even the snack isles. For example, pea snacks are all the rage now, and I see way more pea snacks, pea crisps, etc than ever before at my local chain store.

fifnir 7y ago
You know that "organic" is pretty much a bullshit marketing term right? > large government subsidies of corn and soy That's not exactly what leftists fight for when they fight for government money. Gut those, gut those hard I don't care. Is the government behind the sugar lobby too? https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-industry-shifted-blame-to-fat.html https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/13/well/eat/how-the-sugar-in... Is the government now bringing all the unhealthy things from the West to developing countries? https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil-obesity-nestle.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/16/health/brazil... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4092629 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4092629 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8161771 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8161771 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1363897/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1363897/ Or is it the free market looking for a new source of dollar at the expense of people's health ?