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I found it to be the opposite. I knew I wasn't getting enough sleep and so I would constantly look at my clock, phone, watch, etc. so that I could get an idea o

I found it to be the opposite. I knew I wasn't getting enough sleep and so I would constantly look at my clock, phone, watch, etc. so that I could get an idea of how little I was getting. When I got a fitbit I stopped worrying about looking at my watch constantly to see when I fell asleep as it would tell me in the morning. I still have sleep anxiety and I'm only averaging 5 hours of sleep per night, if I have something I can't miss (like a flight) the next morning I still will often get none, but it's not as bad as it was.

shereadsthenews 7y ago
Isn’t that pretty common? If I know I have to get up unusually early I can never sleep. If I have to rise at 4AM to drive to a bicycling event that starts at 6 I can never sleep before that. Same for very early flight departures or anything out of routine. I’ve adjusted by just getting up so early every day that there’s no possibility of anything being extra-early!
- disordinary 7y ago
  I don't think so. I travel regularly to Sydney for work, the flight we catch to get a full working day has a check-in at 5am. None of my colleagues who I travel with have this problem. I try and deal with it by avoiding early flights if possible and flying the day before and staying the night but it's not always convenient with schedules, etc.
- Johnny555 7y ago
  I found that if I set two independent alarms (i.e. my phone and my alarm clock), I sleep much more soundly when I need to get up early -- the second alarm gives me reassurance that I won't oversleep even if my phone battery dies so I sleep better
mdgrech23 7y ago
I had the same. I'll just reply w/ a laundry list of things that helped me. Black out blinds and eye mask, eliminate all sources of light in the room. Keep the heat down about 64 in the winter, in the summer I sleep w/ a thin blanket and in my underwear. Go to bed at the same time and get up at the same time even on the weekends. Exercise daily. No coffee after 3pm. No eletronics 2 hours before bed. I also sometimes take melatonin.
- disordinary 7y ago
  Thanks for that. Unfortunately because I live in New Zealand for a global company I often have meetings in the middle of the night so the no computer before sleep is tough, I'm also worked up after those meetings and usually need to wind down somehow. I do try and do most of the above, including no coffee after 12 (which is tough because I love coffee).
  - mpfundstein 7y ago
    No offense but why don’t you change jobs? It seems as if the ‘lifestyle’ that your company forces upon you does not fit your personal needs
    - disordinary 7y ago
      None taken, it's more interesting to work for a large scale global company. Solutions that I help develop are used by hundreds of millions if not billions of people every day. Very few companies in the local market have that scale. It will get better at some point, we're just delivering a lot of projects in Europe but attention will shift to this part of the world next. But if it doesn't look like it will improve I'll probably look for something else when the current set of products are in market. I also choose to have meetings at night, work would happily pay for me to fly to Europe but I try and avoid flights when bluejeans will suffice for environmental reasons.
      - Angostura 7y ago
        Also - you get to live in New Zealand
  - maccard 7y ago
    Have you tried decaf coffee? Would highly recommend it as another no caffeine in the afternoon advocate.
- balfirevic 7y ago
  > Black out blinds and eye mask, eliminate all sources of light in the room Why do you need black-out blinds if you have an eye mask?
Steve44 7y ago
> I would constantly look at my clock, phone, watch, etc. I have a projection clock which displays a dull red digital clock on the ceiling. It means if I do wake up I can check the time without having to roll over, rind a bright clock etc. It’s so dull it doesn’t disturb my sleep and I find really useful to have.

shereadsthenews 7y ago

Isn’t that pretty common? If I know I have to get up unusually early I can never sleep. If I have to rise at 4AM to drive to a bicycling event that starts at 6 I can never sleep before that. Same for very early flight departures or anything out of routine. I’ve adjusted by just getting up so early every day that there’s no possibility of anything being extra-early!

disordinary 7y ago
I don't think so. I travel regularly to Sydney for work, the flight we catch to get a full working day has a check-in at 5am. None of my colleagues who I travel with have this problem. I try and deal with it by avoiding early flights if possible and flying the day before and staying the night but it's not always convenient with schedules, etc.
Johnny555 7y ago
I found that if I set two independent alarms (i.e. my phone and my alarm clock), I sleep much more soundly when I need to get up early -- the second alarm gives me reassurance that I won't oversleep even if my phone battery dies so I sleep better

mdgrech23 7y ago

I had the same. I'll just reply w/ a laundry list of things that helped me. Black out blinds and eye mask, eliminate all sources of light in the room. Keep the heat down about 64 in the winter, in the summer I sleep w/ a thin blanket and in my underwear. Go to bed at the same time and get up at the same time even on the weekends. Exercise daily. No coffee after 3pm. No eletronics 2 hours before bed. I also sometimes take melatonin.

disordinary 7y ago
Thanks for that. Unfortunately because I live in New Zealand for a global company I often have meetings in the middle of the night so the no computer before sleep is tough, I'm also worked up after those meetings and usually need to wind down somehow. I do try and do most of the above, including no coffee after 12 (which is tough because I love coffee).
- mpfundstein 7y ago
  No offense but why don’t you change jobs? It seems as if the ‘lifestyle’ that your company forces upon you does not fit your personal needs
  - disordinary 7y ago
    None taken, it's more interesting to work for a large scale global company. Solutions that I help develop are used by hundreds of millions if not billions of people every day. Very few companies in the local market have that scale. It will get better at some point, we're just delivering a lot of projects in Europe but attention will shift to this part of the world next. But if it doesn't look like it will improve I'll probably look for something else when the current set of products are in market. I also choose to have meetings at night, work would happily pay for me to fly to Europe but I try and avoid flights when bluejeans will suffice for environmental reasons.
    - Angostura 7y ago
      Also - you get to live in New Zealand
- maccard 7y ago
  Have you tried decaf coffee? Would highly recommend it as another no caffeine in the afternoon advocate.
balfirevic 7y ago
> Black out blinds and eye mask, eliminate all sources of light in the room Why do you need black-out blinds if you have an eye mask?

Steve44 7y ago

> I would constantly look at my clock, phone, watch, etc. I have a projection clock which displays a dull red digital clock on the ceiling. It means if I do wake up I can check the time without having to roll over, rind a bright clock etc. It’s so dull it doesn’t disturb my sleep and I find really useful to have.