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> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charg

> (took a few hours because they are experiencing a lot of traffic right now) Honestly, I think that's unacceptable for a relatively unknown service that charges a steep price ($25/year for _bookmarking_ is pretty crazy). To not get good uptime and speedy access and have a bold red banner on the top of your homepage claiming poor scaling is not encouraging.

keidian 16y ago
They charge $8.38 at this time (it goes up a little bit for each user, same tiny fraction of cent). The $25 is for extra features that not everyone uses/needs. Personally, I signed up when it was around $6.30 which means a ton more users in the last while (I signed up when Xmarks was saying they were going under) and with a major bookmarking service going under, a small service getting bombarded with many more users usually gives up the ghost and dies totally, not just slows down for certain functions while others continue on fine.
bengross 16y ago
I agree that it looks bad, but I think they are getting a huge flood of new signups and imports based on all the news around Yahoo potentially shutting down Delicious. All parts of the service were fast (one of the major features for me) until the TechCrunch article yesterday. I'm using Pinboard.in right now to navigate my collection of bookmarks and manage tags and I don't notice any slowdown. I suspect the slowdown is actually limited to new imports and archiving. There has been no downtime related to all the new signups as far as I have seen. The developers are active on Twitter http://twitter.com/pinboardin http://twitter.com/pinboardin and the Google Group http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/ http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/ so you can check out the discussion yourself.
idlewords 16y ago
I'm not sure what you're talking about. There was no downtime, and no slow access. We went from our normal rate of 5k bookmark writes per day to over 5 million in a 24 hour period without going offline. Hell, we didn't even get slow. Our median page load times stayed well under a third of a second. We had no advance notice of the announcement and had to handle the spike in traffic on the fly, on one server. Our competitors crashed, we stayed up. I'm pretty proud of this and I think our users got their money's worth from Pinboard today.
- callmevlad 16y ago
  Going from 5k to 5M is really impressive - congrats on your sudden impressive growth! However, the "there was no downtime" seems a bit disingenuous given my own experience signing up for the service yesterday. I received many "service unavailable" messages during signup, after clicking on the email verification link, and finally after signing up. Searching Twitter at the time for "Pinboard" showed that many other users were getting the same message (e.g. http://twitter.com/davekincaid/status/15520511979167744 http://twitter.com/davekincaid/status/15520511979167744) ... there were many others, but unfortunately Twitter's 'older tweets' search doesn't seem to be working now. I actually didn't care that the service was down for me even though I had just paid to sign up for it; I figured you guys were getting absolutely hammered by the unexpected news around Delicious. However, seeing your response here was surprising - either you didn't have monitoring tools set up to show you that indeed there was downtime or we have a drastically different definition of 'downtime'.
  - idlewords 16y ago
    It's the former - on our end we didn't see any errors logged, and had no trouble reaching the site. We did see sporadic reports on Twitter and tried to chase them down, but there was so much going on we couldn't spend much time on it. Eventually pvg made some apache config changes on the fly that seemed to banish the problem for good. If that was the general experience people had with the site last night, then it absolutely was downtime.
    - callmevlad 16y ago
      Thanks for the response and insight - I definitely understand that it's hard to keep track of sporadic issues especially when usage is exploding like yours did in the last few days.
- avinashv 16y ago
  > There was no downtime, and no slow access. There was for me. I tried signing up after that comment but had trouble. In fact, I thought the site was just slow in general. It was the first time I've visited, so I don't know if that response time was normal, but it was slow nonetheless. Based on other responses here and what I've heard from friends and seen on Twitter etc., I don't think I am the only one that felt this. I'm glad you're happy with your performance, and I think it's great you guys were a destination a lot of delicious users chose to head to, but I was just expressing an opinion.

keidian 16y ago

They charge $8.38 at this time (it goes up a little bit for each user, same tiny fraction of cent). The $25 is for extra features that not everyone uses/needs. Personally, I signed up when it was around $6.30 which means a ton more users in the last while (I signed up when Xmarks was saying they were going under) and with a major bookmarking service going under, a small service getting bombarded with many more users usually gives up the ghost and dies totally, not just slows down for certain functions while others continue on fine.

bengross 16y ago

I agree that it looks bad, but I think they are getting a huge flood of new signups and imports based on all the news around Yahoo potentially shutting down Delicious. All parts of the service were fast (one of the major features for me) until the TechCrunch article yesterday. I'm using Pinboard.in right now to navigate my collection of bookmarks and manage tags and I don't notice any slowdown. I suspect the slowdown is actually limited to new imports and archiving. There has been no downtime related to all the new signups as far as I have seen. The developers are active on Twitter http://twitter.com/pinboardin http://twitter.com/pinboardin and the Google Group http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/ http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/ so you can check out the discussion yourself.

idlewords 16y ago

I'm not sure what you're talking about. There was no downtime, and no slow access. We went from our normal rate of 5k bookmark writes per day to over 5 million in a 24 hour period without going offline. Hell, we didn't even get slow. Our median page load times stayed well under a third of a second. We had no advance notice of the announcement and had to handle the spike in traffic on the fly, on one server. Our competitors crashed, we stayed up. I'm pretty proud of this and I think our users got their money's worth from Pinboard today.

callmevlad 16y ago
Going from 5k to 5M is really impressive - congrats on your sudden impressive growth! However, the "there was no downtime" seems a bit disingenuous given my own experience signing up for the service yesterday. I received many "service unavailable" messages during signup, after clicking on the email verification link, and finally after signing up. Searching Twitter at the time for "Pinboard" showed that many other users were getting the same message (e.g. http://twitter.com/davekincaid/status/15520511979167744 http://twitter.com/davekincaid/status/15520511979167744) ... there were many others, but unfortunately Twitter's 'older tweets' search doesn't seem to be working now. I actually didn't care that the service was down for me even though I had just paid to sign up for it; I figured you guys were getting absolutely hammered by the unexpected news around Delicious. However, seeing your response here was surprising - either you didn't have monitoring tools set up to show you that indeed there was downtime or we have a drastically different definition of 'downtime'.
- idlewords 16y ago
  It's the former - on our end we didn't see any errors logged, and had no trouble reaching the site. We did see sporadic reports on Twitter and tried to chase them down, but there was so much going on we couldn't spend much time on it. Eventually pvg made some apache config changes on the fly that seemed to banish the problem for good. If that was the general experience people had with the site last night, then it absolutely was downtime.
  - callmevlad 16y ago
    Thanks for the response and insight - I definitely understand that it's hard to keep track of sporadic issues especially when usage is exploding like yours did in the last few days.
avinashv 16y ago
> There was no downtime, and no slow access. There was for me. I tried signing up after that comment but had trouble. In fact, I thought the site was just slow in general. It was the first time I've visited, so I don't know if that response time was normal, but it was slow nonetheless. Based on other responses here and what I've heard from friends and seen on Twitter etc., I don't think I am the only one that felt this. I'm glad you're happy with your performance, and I think it's great you guys were a destination a lot of delicious users chose to head to, but I was just expressing an opinion.