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This may be true, but it completely fails to distinguish between 1) the type of regime implementing the surveillance - autocratic vs democratic, and 2) offensiv
by toss1 7y ago
This may be true, but it completely fails to distinguish between 1) the type of regime implementing the surveillance - autocratic vs democratic, and 2) offensive vs defensive.
It is necessary for any society to do intelligence gathering to defend itself, or it will soon be overwhelmed by an autocratic one.
In contrast, when the entire state apparatus is turned to the goals of a single leader or party, and to suppressing any dissent and plundering other countries, it is quite a different affair. While the US has institutionalized racism in it's police forces, this is being openly fought. In contrast, China massacres thousands in Tianamen square and actively wipes it from the record, and currently imprisons over a million, it is a far different story.
False equivalence actively undermines truth.
(NB: the current US administration is doing everything it can to turn the US into an autocratic state, i.e., where the entire state apparatus serves the personal goals of administrators. However, it is actually the relative independence of the various agencies and branches of govt, including the 17 Intel agencies that are helping thwart those tendencies.)
- TaylorAlexander 7y agoThe US jails journalists and most of our media is self censoring capitalists. Both political parties act in total agreement on lots of things as to give us no choice, and the US has a significant measurable difference between the desires of the people and the legislation we pass. I really don’t think the US is a great democracy and we are significantly olichargic. On the other hand the Chinese government offers a fair amount of democratic decision making in some ways while squashing it in others. I really do think it’s hard to see one as morally superior than the other. It’s especially hard because I’ve been immersed in pro US propaganda my entire life.