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It's strange. There's two version of this story going around. Kind of the mainstream media version, and the version from the "hackers" themselves. Pitchfork do
by strictnein 7y ago
It's strange. There's two version of this story going around. Kind of the mainstream media version, and the version from the "hackers" themselves.
Pitchfork does a good job of following up on the second version, which may be the more accurate of the two:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/radiohead-fans-vs-black-market-sellers-the-battle-to-leak-the-ok-computer-tapes/ https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/radiohead-fans-vs-black-marke...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA8u6UhjbutZ-b7TXzmX4qkOTg6nGC1vPg50WwCcZyo/preview?pru=AAABa23CGUw*zFHssXLEl0f8FTzC_dEQrA https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA8u6UhjbutZ-b7TXzmX4qkO...
- huis 7y agoYes this also fits the note on Basecamp: "as it’s out there it may as well be out there". I don't think they would say this if a hacker was holding it back for ransom. So the hacker tried to sell it for $150000 but now everyone can buy it for $18.
- alien1993 7y agoIt's probably because they announced it like this. https://www.instagram.com/p/BykT-NOA6_m/?igshid=6nm3aw87qo8d https://www.instagram.com/p/BykT-NOA6_m/?igshid=6nm3aw87qo8d
- staticautomatic 7y agoI am disappointed to learn that Radiohead has an Instagram account.
- justwalt 7y agoMost active bands do. It doesn’t say much other than “we’d like to reach our audience.”
- and0 7y agoRadiohead were pioneers in social media announcements, between the sudden pay-what-you-want digital release of In Rainbows to, as far as I know, inventing social media blackout / cryptic profile picture shenanigans.
- staticautomatic 7y agoMy point is only this: If in 1997 you'd told me that the people who wrote OK Computer would later be unashamedly using a world-dominating platform built by fitter happier people whose ambition, I was told, makes them look pretty ugly, I would not have believed you.
- Dirlewanger 7y agoNot everyone has Fugazi-esque morals.
- asdff 7y agoRadiohead did when they released hail to the thief.
- throwaway-hn123 7y agoYeah, you need a sense of perspective, dude. It's rock music.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y ago> a world-dominating platform built by fitter happier people ... I guess I need an Instagram account.
- staticautomatic 7y agoIs that sarcasm or have you just never listened to Fitter Happier?
- majormajor 7y agoRemember you're talking about a very popular band that was making full use of 90s world-dominating mainstream media platforms that were run by douchebags then too. But now we're in Tool territory instead of Radiohead territory https://genius.com/Tool-hooker-with-a-penis-lyrics https://genius.com/Tool-hooker-with-a-penis-lyrics
- tomglynch 7y agoIt's wrong to even refer to them as 'hackers'. There's one 'leaker' and the group of people that first found out about this.
- natechols 7y agoHow about we refer to them as "thieves"?
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y agoThis version makes a lot more sense than the "blackmail" story I keep hearing on the news. Thanks for the links.
- duxup 7y agoIt seems like hacking and then demanding payment or someone releases the data isn't that uncommon / unlikely. Is there some reason not to buy into that?
- StavrosK 7y agoI'm confused, did the band release the material or did the fake Hoserama?
- LeifCarrotson 7y ago1. The band had a 3rd party digitize some old tapes. 2. Someone at that 3rd party copied and leaked the data. 3. One of the recipients (or the leaker) posed as Hoserama and tried to extort/sell/release them for $$$. 4. The band chose to release them for $, undercutting the fake.
- StavrosK 7y agoThat clarifies it, thanks. I missed a lot, I must have not read the article entirely.
- toyg 7y ago> Someone at that 3rd party copied and leaked the data. Or someone broke into the 3rd party infrastructure and made out with the data. Music-related businesses are not exactly renowned for their cybersecurity standards. We'll probably never know.
- hoorayimhelping 7y agoNumber 2 is pure speculation and you should mention that instead of passing it off as fact.
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- LeifCarrotson 7y agoSorry, too late to edit. You're right, much of this (all three points?) are speculation/hearsay/guesses. I'm just summarizing what's been reported, I don't have any special inside information.
- redlorryyellow 7y ago
- sosuke 7y agoIn that doc there is a "hidden" (white text on white background) msg about the versions being different still. https://i.imgur.com/6Jo3Q7h.png https://i.imgur.com/6Jo3Q7h.png