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Show HN: Never-Blink: Blink and Lose. An Online Web Game
- tomcam 7y agoClever idea, and (thank heaven) an incredibly clear demo right on the home page. Well done! I kind of think this could be like the next 2048.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThanks for your highly affirmation!
- ClassyJacket 7y agoCute. However I assume I could out-blink the framerate of a laptop webcam ;) Does closing one eye at a time count, or is this like Doctor Who and we just ignore the concept of winking?
- nomel 7y agoI imagine drawing eyes on your eyelids would be enough.
- nielsbot 7y agoWill need some kind of anti-cheating system
- byronhsu1230 7y agoYes we will think about it. Thx.
- Buttons840 7y agoTrying to fool the blink detector might end up being more fun than not blinking.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThat's true. lol
- mrguyorama 7y agoDo you really need it though? It would be pretty immediately obvious to the other player that their opponent is cheating.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThe detector model now is not strong enough. It uses traditional computer vision concept to detect the blinking. We plan to combine deep learning to develop a more robust detector model in the future.
- jgtrosh 7y agoAlso, to address winking: you could define blinking as a sequence of winks. This should accommodate people with 1 eye blind though. Wait, do blind people win this 100%?
- Vinnl 7y agoDo blind people not blink? Edit: Figured I could look this up myself. As I thought, yes, they blink - blinking clears particles and such from your eyes. (That is, unless they have trauma that prevents them from blinking, of course.)
- jgtrosh 7y agoThanks, I didn't think to look it up. I must have recalled a case where the person had such trauma and extended that to blind people in general.
- theon144 7y ago>Does closing one eye at a time count Bah, I just tried it and it did not alleviate my urge to blink! I still want to blink afterwards. Does work it for you?
- 333c 7y agoToo much effort. Just print out a picture of a person with open eyes. At that point it's really just the honor code that holds us to honesty.
- jpalomaki 7y agoAdd heartbeat detection to verify the person is alive. [1] has one example, Google "use webcam to detect heartbeat" to find more. [1] https://github.com/thearn/webcam-pulse-detector https://github.com/thearn/webcam-pulse-detector
- adrianN 7y agoAdd gaze tracking and have people look at a randomly moving dot.
- quickthrower2 7y agoWhile entering captcha codes every 10 seconds
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThis is so useful!
- ergl 7y agoAre we so irremediably used to constant surveillance that the fact that a game would check my heart rate so I don't cheat doesn't trouble anyone? To the extent that this seems an obvious and non-problematic idea to us?
- scarejunba 7y agoNot everything is a soapbox for your pet hate, man. People are just sharing cool things you can do with webcams and computer vision.
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- StavrosK 7y agoYou can't, and that's demonstrated in this thing I made for fun: https://youtu.be/xzcdopwq7ok https://youtu.be/xzcdopwq7ok A frame is 40 ms and you blink for more than 100.
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- keyle 7y agoThis is awesome! I couldn't help but think that this needs to be implemented in a chat-roulette style application. Blink and you're thrown out to the next person.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThis idea is awesome! Thanks a lot. We may add it to our features in the future!
- tgsovlerkhgsel 7y agoImplementing a chat-roulette style application will bring chat-roulette style problems.
- miguelmota 7y agobut blinking is faster than clicking the 'Next' button when someone surprises you with their 'goods'!
- failrate 7y agoPR: never blink royale Same game, many more players at one time.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoSorry, what did you mean?
- GRiMe2D 7y agoThere is a new trend on games – they are implementing "battle royale" genre where multiple gamers play against everyone at once and every "killed" player will leave the arena. Winner is who stayed as the last "alive" person. PUBG probably was the first popular PC game that was battle royale. Fortnite is currently most played battle royale
- byronhsu1230 7y agoOMG That is so cool!!
- kbenson 7y agoFor something that might be more applicable to your application, check out Tetris 99, which is a battle royale version of Tetris that Nintendo released earlier this year. Not only does it encapsulate an interface that might work better, but it also (as I understand it) thas mechanics to link you to other players in the set so there's a bit of 1-on-1 competition where people affect each other within the larger competition to last the longest. I can imagine this being pretty fun if, for example you could also perform some task (answer a trivia question, move the mouse through a maze, etc) that might affect others (such as blank their video feed for a few seconds, or flash it white, or apply a weird color filter). The attention and concentration might make people forget to not blink, and the altering off opponents visuals could throw them off as well.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoIt is a really great idea!
- nielsbot 7y agoHas potential as a mobile app?
- byronhsu1230 7y agoYes. Instagram has proposed "flappy bird" not long before. We though that we can use the same technique to launch a mobile version.
- stunt 7y agoNice and fun concept! You can easily create a game with this concept.
- M2Ys4U 7y agoThe BBC created a game using this mechanic a couple of years ago, based around Doctor Who's Weeping Angels: https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/entries/593c6730-9491-4735-b71a-dad09f82c241 https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/entries/593c6730-9491-...
- byronhsu1230 7y agoThanks for your sharing!
- martin-adams 7y agoWe need a version which allows players to eat a sugary doughnut without licking their lips.
- b3lvedere 7y agoThat look like a lot of fun. Short simple fun. I'd love this as a game/app to battle people on my contact list and keep high scores.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoIt seems that we can cooperate with messenger or line!
- dysosmia 7y agoWhat are the chances I'll end up maintaining intense, unwavering eye contact with someone doing something lewd in half of their screen?
- staticautomatic 7y agoThis brings back many a bad (and hilarious) memory of Chat Roulette.
- dole 7y agoWhere is our computer vision if it can't even recognize cocks?
- lostphilosopher 7y agoLooks like this drew some downvotes, but it gets a +1 from me. Reliable realtime "censoring" in video chat platforms _not intended for sexual content_ would make informal video chat a lot more user friendly. I'd totally video chat with random strangers, that sounds fun. I'd join a video chat group hangout (Hacker New Live, haha) but I'd prefer everyone kept their pants on. Doubly so if I'm going to join this chat at work or in public.
- ltc5505 7y agoThe thought of recruiting beta testers for such a service ...
- jasonjayr 7y agoGiven what I know about the internet, this would promptly be subject to groups of users constantly testing it to see what they could get away with before it's the recognizer catches up.
- nostalgk 7y agohey, that's machine learning baby. Sounds to me like it's a successful market.
- vchak1 7y agoClearly a Theranos pivot.
- byronhsu1230 7y agoOh. Why?
- MagicPropmaker 7y agoBecause Elizabeth Holmes never blinked!
- byronhsu1230 7y agoWhich part of this idea is impracticable?
- zachguo 7y agoBetter put a legal notice about potential health implications, or you may get into troubles.
- emptybits 7y agoCool concept. Some blink trivia, if you're playing to win: ;-) Don't play against young children.[1] Do play against women taking birth control.[2] [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/223495 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/223495 [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7822673 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7822673
- jaden 7y agoThere are two private RSA keys in the repository. That may be intentional, but it's usually not a good idea. https://github.com/ByronHsu/Never-Blink/blob/master/backend/server.key https://github.com/ByronHsu/Never-Blink/blob/master/backend/... https://github.com/ByronHsu/Never-Blink/blob/master/backend/server.key.org https://github.com/ByronHsu/Never-Blink/blob/master/backend/...
- imdsm 7y agoFor anyone looking for a link to a live site to play it: > Becausee the detector is too slow and weak, we can not endure too many clients. Therefore, we do not deploy it to a public server now. We plan to train a robust and fast model in the future. :(