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Why is it illegal to amplify music in your store if you paid for the music?

by ikeyany 7y ago

bhelkey 7y ago
Should it be legal to create a drive-in that plays movies off of Netflix?
- Nextgrid 7y ago
  Unpopular opinion, but I would say yes. It doesn’t cost Netflix any more money whether one person or 10 people are watching a particular subscription. I’d say the major appeal of the drive-in is the venue and all the accessories (big screen, sound, etc) - otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix yourself and watch it at home.
  - deelowe 7y ago
    Opportunity cost is real...
    - Nextgrid 7y ago
      I mean I understand both sides of the argument, but it seems like physical goods manufacturers are doing fine without enforcing restrictions on how their goods are used (I am free to buy an off-the-shelf power tool and then rent it out without paying extra to the manufacturer), so why are we giving this exception to content producers? In my opinion the law should be changed that content you pay for can be used as you wish except copying (otherwise you'd just copy it and resell). It'll drive up the prices of the "source" content, but the market will quickly fill the gap by offering affordable access to broadcasted versions of such content.
  - icebraining 7y ago
    > otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix Yes, that's the point: if not for the drive-in, you'd pay for Netflix. A more interesting question is: why can't one create that drive-in, as long as only Netflix subscribers can enter? If "it's a license, not a product" like these companies shout, trying to prevent legitimate ownership rights, the license should work anywhere.
- SomeOldThrow 7y ago
  Yes.
- ikeyany 7y ago
  Yes. It shouldn't be illegal to have music playing in your store if the music isn't the attraction.
jefftk 7y ago
Public performance rights are handled separately from private listening.
- ikeyany 7y ago
  There is a line between a public performance and background noise.
thatoneuser 7y ago
Because media owners paid off enough law makers such that they have insane control over how people use their products. It's analogous to a car manufacturer putting a device in your car that will drive it back to the lot if you let someone else drive it. Except it's all over software - something that costs virtually nothing if lost. This is only for the big guys tho. Little guys get screwed harder than before.

Why is it illegal to amplify music in your store if you paid for the music?

bhelkey 7y ago

Should it be legal to create a drive-in that plays movies off of Netflix?

Nextgrid 7y ago
Unpopular opinion, but I would say yes. It doesn’t cost Netflix any more money whether one person or 10 people are watching a particular subscription. I’d say the major appeal of the drive-in is the venue and all the accessories (big screen, sound, etc) - otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix yourself and watch it at home.
- deelowe 7y ago
  Opportunity cost is real...
  - Nextgrid 7y ago
    I mean I understand both sides of the argument, but it seems like physical goods manufacturers are doing fine without enforcing restrictions on how their goods are used (I am free to buy an off-the-shelf power tool and then rent it out without paying extra to the manufacturer), so why are we giving this exception to content producers? In my opinion the law should be changed that content you pay for can be used as you wish except copying (otherwise you'd just copy it and resell). It'll drive up the prices of the "source" content, but the market will quickly fill the gap by offering affordable access to broadcasted versions of such content.
- icebraining 7y ago
  > otherwise you’d just pay for Netflix Yes, that's the point: if not for the drive-in, you'd pay for Netflix. A more interesting question is: why can't one create that drive-in, as long as only Netflix subscribers can enter? If "it's a license, not a product" like these companies shout, trying to prevent legitimate ownership rights, the license should work anywhere.
SomeOldThrow 7y ago
Yes.
ikeyany 7y ago
Yes. It shouldn't be illegal to have music playing in your store if the music isn't the attraction.

jefftk 7y ago

Public performance rights are handled separately from private listening.

ikeyany 7y ago
There is a line between a public performance and background noise.

thatoneuser 7y ago

Because media owners paid off enough law makers such that they have insane control over how people use their products. It's analogous to a car manufacturer putting a device in your car that will drive it back to the lot if you let someone else drive it. Except it's all over software - something that costs virtually nothing if lost. This is only for the big guys tho. Little guys get screwed harder than before.