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Also, the zoning laws are fucking stupid. Of course if you zone low density residential and then zone commercial 2 miles away people can't walk there. Walkabil

Also, the zoning laws are fucking stupid. Of course if you zone low density residential and then zone commercial 2 miles away people can't walk there. Walkability is a key factor, we need to stop using cars. Copenhagen is an absolute dream compared to here.

jelliclesfarm 7y ago
Yes. I agree. People should move to Copenhagen. Leave the Bay Area alone. We are suffering enough already.
- pertymcpert 7y ago
  Copenhagen density is IIRC around 5-6x higher than Bay Area. So density isn't the issue, it's infrastructure investment and zoning.
  - jelliclesfarm 7y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen Further: https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-francisco https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-francisco https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-jose-ca-united-states https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-jose-ca-united-state... Etc.
    - pertymcpert 7y ago
      Thanks, that supports my point.
jelliclesfarm 7y ago
That’s right. Zoning laws are stupid. Who needs trees in a city? Or parks? Right? Let’s keep building high density homes and let our kids decide if they want to stand in a queue to go to the rest room or have lunch because new schools aren’t being built to accommodate the high density homes. Sounds like a plan. Why ON EARTH would people work their arses off if they can’t live well and be a proud NIMBY? This is such fundamental human psychology that I am amazed that so many people don’t get it. I have never met a person who is a home owner in the Bay Area who is fighting for high density. Not one. It’s those who want to get in here who wants to build more and more. It’s pretty clear why and once they get a foot in..boom! The transformation to NIMBY begins. And I completely understand that! Build responsibly. Build infrastructure. Build community benefits. Don’t take tens of thousands of dollars in taxes from high earning zipcodes and distribute it all to lower earning zip codes. The community deserves benefits. Everyone who is productive will QUIT the Bay Area they created if they don’t feel rewarded. And space is a luxury. And omg..do we pay for it through taxes and cost of living!! Or. People could move to Copenhagen. It’s a dream, I hear.

jelliclesfarm 7y ago

Yes. I agree. People should move to Copenhagen. Leave the Bay Area alone. We are suffering enough already.

pertymcpert 7y ago
Copenhagen density is IIRC around 5-6x higher than Bay Area. So density isn't the issue, it's infrastructure investment and zoning.
- jelliclesfarm 7y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Bay_Area https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen Further: https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-francisco https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-francisco https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-jose-ca-united-states https://versus.com/en/copenhagen-vs-san-jose-ca-united-state... Etc.
  - pertymcpert 7y ago
    Thanks, that supports my point.

jelliclesfarm 7y ago

That’s right. Zoning laws are stupid. Who needs trees in a city? Or parks? Right? Let’s keep building high density homes and let our kids decide if they want to stand in a queue to go to the rest room or have lunch because new schools aren’t being built to accommodate the high density homes. Sounds like a plan. Why ON EARTH would people work their arses off if they can’t live well and be a proud NIMBY? This is such fundamental human psychology that I am amazed that so many people don’t get it. I have never met a person who is a home owner in the Bay Area who is fighting for high density. Not one. It’s those who want to get in here who wants to build more and more. It’s pretty clear why and once they get a foot in..boom! The transformation to NIMBY begins. And I completely understand that! Build responsibly. Build infrastructure. Build community benefits. Don’t take tens of thousands of dollars in taxes from high earning zipcodes and distribute it all to lower earning zip codes. The community deserves benefits. Everyone who is productive will QUIT the Bay Area they created if they don’t feel rewarded. And space is a luxury. And omg..do we pay for it through taxes and cost of living!! Or. People could move to Copenhagen. It’s a dream, I hear.