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The government has the ability to make me disappear. Facebook does not.

tehjoker 7y ago
"Facebook Is Looking for Employees With National Security Clearances" "October 16, 2017, 4:00 AM EDT Updated on October 16, 2017, 12:23 PM EDT" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/facebook-is-said-to-seek-staff-with-national-security-clearance https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/facebook-...
arrosenberg 7y ago
Facebook does have the opposite ability though - they could make one appear to be whoever they want. If they were inclined to use their data and technology maliciously, against an individual, I think it's likely they could ruin that life pretty quickly.
bongobongo 7y ago
A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. And repressive governments already use Facebook to disappear their people: >The Facebook posts were not from everyday internet users. Instead, they were from Myanmar military personnel who turned the social network into a tool for ethnic cleansing, according to former military officials, researchers and civilian officials in the country. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebook-genocide.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo... So, the notion that it's somehow "safer" for Facebook to engage in omnipresent surveillance doesn't prove true.
- phry 7y ago
  > A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. oh for sure bud "The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-poli...
  - na85 7y ago
    The US isn't a liberal constitutional democracy. It's an oligarchy with different laws for the rich and poor.
- paulddraper 7y ago
  > A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. Yes, no true Scotsman would do such a thing.
  - bongobongo 7y ago
    You don’t really know what that means, do you?
gdy 7y ago
But character assassination with all the data on you that FB has is trivial.
ishan1121 7y ago
Be shadow banned by Fb & Google and your online presence is dead. You can scream and scream all you want but no one will hear you online.

"Facebook Is Looking for Employees With National Security Clearances" "October 16, 2017, 4:00 AM EDT Updated on October 16, 2017, 12:23 PM EDT" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/facebook-is-said-to-seek-staff-with-national-security-clearance https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/facebook-...

arrosenberg 7y ago

Facebook does have the opposite ability though - they could make one appear to be whoever they want. If they were inclined to use their data and technology maliciously, against an individual, I think it's likely they could ruin that life pretty quickly.

bongobongo 7y ago

A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. And repressive governments already use Facebook to disappear their people: >The Facebook posts were not from everyday internet users. Instead, they were from Myanmar military personnel who turned the social network into a tool for ethnic cleansing, according to former military officials, researchers and civilian officials in the country. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebook-genocide.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/technology/myanmar-facebo... So, the notion that it's somehow "safer" for Facebook to engage in omnipresent surveillance doesn't prove true.

phry 7y ago
> A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. oh for sure bud "The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-poli...
- na85 7y ago
  The US isn't a liberal constitutional democracy. It's an oligarchy with different laws for the rich and poor.
paulddraper 7y ago
> A liberal constitutional democracy does not have any more ability to make you disappear than Facebook does. Yes, no true Scotsman would do such a thing.
- bongobongo 7y ago
  You don’t really know what that means, do you?

gdy 7y ago

But character assassination with all the data on you that FB has is trivial.

ishan1121 7y ago

Be shadow banned by Fb & Google and your online presence is dead. You can scream and scream all you want but no one will hear you online.