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>They lead with the point that most-seemed to get lost in translation, even on technical sites like HN. >>No, Chrome isn’t killing ad blockers They’re just ne

by pilif 7y ago

>They lead with the point that most-seemed to get lost in translation, even on technical sites like HN. >>No, Chrome isn’t killing ad blockers They’re just neutering them with a ridiculously low limit of rules. One of the benefits of doing this declaratively is that they can optimize the shit out of these blocking declarations. There is no need for such a low limit. Or even a limit at all.

SquareWheel 7y ago
Even EasyList, which is probably the largest list out there, has 42,000 rules. So I wouldn't consider a 150,000 limit to be "ridiculously low". However I do agree that there shouldn't be a limit, in accordance with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule. I think they were just trying to get people to actually clean up EasyList to prune dead rules.
- smileybarry 7y ago
  EasyList has 91k rules. Combine that with malware domain lists and other regional lists, and you can easily get to that limit. I just checked and my uBlock Origin -- which doesn't have any social filter lists applied -- has 148,339 rules applied in total.
  - SquareWheel 7y ago
    >EasyList has 91k rules. I read 42K from a source earlier today. That's where I got my figure. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/22/chrome-extension-manifest-v3-could-end-ublock-origin-for-chrome/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/22/chrome-extension-manifest-... Might it be different for different extensions?
    - danShumway 7y ago
      My current uBlock extension has 99,596 network filters. Easylist alone has 90,000 for me, the rest are miscellaneous ad-on lists -- so maybe it is different for different apps. The direct download from the official site has about 75,000 filters[0], though maybe that includes some cosmetic ones? 150,000 is definitely better than 30,000, but it's probably not a future-proof number. EDIT: Actually, given Apple's 50,000 filter limit, I wonder if your source was looking at a version of Easylist that was trimmed down specifically for Safari. [0]: https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt
    - Macha 7y ago
      I have 91k in ublock origin on my firefox install also.

by pilif 7y ago

SquareWheel 7y ago

Even EasyList, which is probably the largest list out there, has 42,000 rules. So I wouldn't consider a 150,000 limit to be "ridiculously low". However I do agree that there shouldn't be a limit, in accordance with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_one_infinity_rule. I think they were just trying to get people to actually clean up EasyList to prune dead rules.

smileybarry 7y ago
EasyList has 91k rules. Combine that with malware domain lists and other regional lists, and you can easily get to that limit. I just checked and my uBlock Origin -- which doesn't have any social filter lists applied -- has 148,339 rules applied in total.
- SquareWheel 7y ago
  >EasyList has 91k rules. I read 42K from a source earlier today. That's where I got my figure. https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/22/chrome-extension-manifest-v3-could-end-ublock-origin-for-chrome/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/01/22/chrome-extension-manifest-... Might it be different for different extensions?
  - danShumway 7y ago
    My current uBlock extension has 99,596 network filters. Easylist alone has 90,000 for me, the rest are miscellaneous ad-on lists -- so maybe it is different for different apps. The direct download from the official site has about 75,000 filters[0], though maybe that includes some cosmetic ones? 150,000 is definitely better than 30,000, but it's probably not a future-proof number. EDIT: Actually, given Apple's 50,000 filter limit, I wonder if your source was looking at a version of Easylist that was trimmed down specifically for Safari. [0]: https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt https://easylist.to/easylist/easylist.txt
  - Macha 7y ago
    I have 91k in ublock origin on my firefox install also.