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Just use iCloud. I switched a few years ago. It works really well. Unless you are using Dropbox with a team or a corporate environment, iCloud is better. I use

Just use iCloud. I switched a few years ago. It works really well. Unless you are using Dropbox with a team or a corporate environment, iCloud is better. I use a combo of iCloud (love the desktop syncing between my machines btw), and Google File Stream for team documents.

treve 7y ago
I assume you're only using Mac devices though right?
- fudgy73 7y ago
  iCloud for Windows was recently revamped after collaboration between Apple and Microsoft [0]. [0] - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283
  - 24gttghh 7y ago
    No Linux support besides a web browser interface though...any alternatives in that realm? (iOS <--> Linux)
  - siproprio 7y ago
    Where did you get this info from? That link says nothing about a Microsoft and Apple collaboration.
    - xvector 7y ago
      Collaboration has been heavily implied in all articles I've read about this. That Microsoft made a blog post[1] about it, saying "Apple and Microsoft", must mean something. [1]: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apples-all-new-icloud-for-windows-app-now-available-in-the-microsoft-store/#r7gUmIZCEqIUcxV7.97 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apple...
    - axolttl88 7y ago
      Microsoft blog: “The new iCloud for Windows app introduces a new iCloud Drive experience for Windows 10 users powered by the same Windows technology that also powers OneDrive’s Files On-Demand feature, enabling users to be more productive offline on mobile devices and quickly share files on iOS.” https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apples-all-new-icloud-for-windows-app-now-available-in-the-microsoft-store/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apple...
      - siproprio 7y ago
        The parent poster should've made it more clear! Because the Apple Support link posted does not mention this collaboration anywhere, unlike the Microsoft blog. Edit: I'm trying the "updated" app now. No changes appear to have been made. It is still slow and buggy as hell, it still installs a ported and outdated version of half of the frameworks of OS X, as expected.
pathartl 7y ago
To me, this mass exodus from platforms to iCloud is _scary_. I've been rolling my own solution for some time now based on Resilio Sync. I understand that I'm the minority and a power user, but honestly giving Apple (or Google, or Dropbox, or _____) control over my files like that does not appeal to me in the slightest. On sort of a tangent, I'm also choosing not to use iCloud because I really feel like it gives Apple an excuse to establish anti-consumer practices when it comes to hardware repairability and data ownership. I had an amazingly terrible time at the Apple store recently and an employee tried convincing me that Google will sell my photos that I've uploaded to my G-Suite account. I believe what he said was "I just pay the $x/month for iCloud, because 3rd parties can't be trusted sometimes". To me, that is an amazingly terrible attitude that sounds like it came straight off the page of the language guidelines. As far as hardware repairability, Apple recently has moved to either soldered-on or proprietary connectors for their storage devices for most of their devices. In the 2016 MacBook Pros, they made an assembly to recover data via the lifeboat connector so if you had a logic board swap (which is what you get because they'd rather landfill/grind down than repair) your data could still be recovered. https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macbook-pro-ssd-recover-repairs/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macboo... This has disappeared on the latest models. Finally, Apple in the past year has discontinued their Time Capsule product and has not made any large improvements to Time Machine. It is still a nightmare to use with SMB environments, which seems to not align with Apple's silent killing of AFP in favor of Samba.
- xvector 7y ago
  > control over my files like that does not appeal to me in the slightest. Then self-host Nextcloud on your NAS. > anti-consumer practices when it comes to hardware repairability and data ownership. Hardware repairability? Agreed, but this goes hand-in-hand with security. IMO all hardware and data should be entangled with the Secure Enclave/T2 chip but Apple is a long way from that (looks, however, as if they are working towards it). Data ownership? IMO Apple is pretty good with that. They care much more about privacy here than Google et al. If you truly want nothing on Apple's cloud, it's super easy to turn off iCloud too. > I had an amazingly terrible time at the Apple store recently and an employee tried convincing me I don't get tech people who do this. You go to a store, ask about a product that you are clearly more knowledgable than the employee on, and then complain that they aren't knowledgable? Unless you are lost there is zero reason for you to ask an employee about a product. That said, I trust Apple not to datamine your photos. I don't trust Google on that. > This has disappeared on the latest models. T2 chip. Security/convenience tradeoff. I'll take the security every time. Seriously, though, it looks like the only solution that you'll find palatable will be your own NAS with self-hosted Nextcloud - and, if you use a Mac, Time Machine.
ryanmack 7y ago
Really limited on features no? No smart sync, revisions, or easy link sharing.
- mrgill 7y ago
  If you're on Mac, smart sync is available, it's native.

treve 7y ago

I assume you're only using Mac devices though right?

fudgy73 7y ago
iCloud for Windows was recently revamped after collaboration between Apple and Microsoft [0]. [0] - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204283
- 24gttghh 7y ago
  No Linux support besides a web browser interface though...any alternatives in that realm? (iOS <--> Linux)
- siproprio 7y ago
  Where did you get this info from? That link says nothing about a Microsoft and Apple collaboration.
  - xvector 7y ago
    Collaboration has been heavily implied in all articles I've read about this. That Microsoft made a blog post[1] about it, saying "Apple and Microsoft", must mean something. [1]: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apples-all-new-icloud-for-windows-app-now-available-in-the-microsoft-store/#r7gUmIZCEqIUcxV7.97 https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apple...
  - axolttl88 7y ago
    Microsoft blog: “The new iCloud for Windows app introduces a new iCloud Drive experience for Windows 10 users powered by the same Windows technology that also powers OneDrive’s Files On-Demand feature, enabling users to be more productive offline on mobile devices and quickly share files on iOS.” https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apples-all-new-icloud-for-windows-app-now-available-in-the-microsoft-store/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2019/06/11/apple...
    - siproprio 7y ago
      The parent poster should've made it more clear! Because the Apple Support link posted does not mention this collaboration anywhere, unlike the Microsoft blog. Edit: I'm trying the "updated" app now. No changes appear to have been made. It is still slow and buggy as hell, it still installs a ported and outdated version of half of the frameworks of OS X, as expected.

pathartl 7y ago

To me, this mass exodus from platforms to iCloud is _scary_. I've been rolling my own solution for some time now based on Resilio Sync. I understand that I'm the minority and a power user, but honestly giving Apple (or Google, or Dropbox, or _____) control over my files like that does not appeal to me in the slightest. On sort of a tangent, I'm also choosing not to use iCloud because I really feel like it gives Apple an excuse to establish anti-consumer practices when it comes to hardware repairability and data ownership. I had an amazingly terrible time at the Apple store recently and an employee tried convincing me that Google will sell my photos that I've uploaded to my G-Suite account. I believe what he said was "I just pay the $x/month for iCloud, because 3rd parties can't be trusted sometimes". To me, that is an amazingly terrible attitude that sounds like it came straight off the page of the language guidelines. As far as hardware repairability, Apple recently has moved to either soldered-on or proprietary connectors for their storage devices for most of their devices. In the 2016 MacBook Pros, they made an assembly to recover data via the lifeboat connector so if you had a logic board swap (which is what you get because they'd rather landfill/grind down than repair) your data could still be recovered. https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macbook-pro-ssd-recover-repairs/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/24/apple-special-cdm-tool-macboo... This has disappeared on the latest models. Finally, Apple in the past year has discontinued their Time Capsule product and has not made any large improvements to Time Machine. It is still a nightmare to use with SMB environments, which seems to not align with Apple's silent killing of AFP in favor of Samba.

xvector 7y ago
> control over my files like that does not appeal to me in the slightest. Then self-host Nextcloud on your NAS. > anti-consumer practices when it comes to hardware repairability and data ownership. Hardware repairability? Agreed, but this goes hand-in-hand with security. IMO all hardware and data should be entangled with the Secure Enclave/T2 chip but Apple is a long way from that (looks, however, as if they are working towards it). Data ownership? IMO Apple is pretty good with that. They care much more about privacy here than Google et al. If you truly want nothing on Apple's cloud, it's super easy to turn off iCloud too. > I had an amazingly terrible time at the Apple store recently and an employee tried convincing me I don't get tech people who do this. You go to a store, ask about a product that you are clearly more knowledgable than the employee on, and then complain that they aren't knowledgable? Unless you are lost there is zero reason for you to ask an employee about a product. That said, I trust Apple not to datamine your photos. I don't trust Google on that. > This has disappeared on the latest models. T2 chip. Security/convenience tradeoff. I'll take the security every time. Seriously, though, it looks like the only solution that you'll find palatable will be your own NAS with self-hosted Nextcloud - and, if you use a Mac, Time Machine.

ryanmack 7y ago

Really limited on features no? No smart sync, revisions, or easy link sharing.

mrgill 7y ago
If you're on Mac, smart sync is available, it's native.