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Yes, I understand that. And I know that I might be spreading FUD here (which I wanna avoid). However I'm concerned that the Australian government (given their

Yes, I understand that. And I know that I might be spreading FUD here (which I wanna avoid). However I'm concerned that the Australian government (given their recent authoritarian actions) might be a little too quick to request my data from FastMail.

ocdtrekkie 7y ago
But like... currently you're storing your data in the United States. I would argue that Australia's recent actions is more likely catching up to the status quo of other major nations than anything particularly egregious. If you have very strong concerns about the government requesting your data, you should look at end-to-end solutions like ProtonMail.
- t0astbread 7y ago
  Oh I think there was a misunderstanding here! I never intended to say FastMail was worse than Google. FastMail (IMO) is still a better choice for lots of reasons. As for ProtonMail: Yes, I've been a ProtonMail customer for about half a year now. However I'm really dissatisfied on a number of ends: <opinion> - the bridge is a bad solution and it doesn't work well - the bridge doesn't exist on Android, tying me into their own client - their own client is proprietary and has GSF dependencies (optional, but still - privacy?) - (this might be due to technical constraints so it might be not valid but) they generally seem to have an aversion against standards - their technical team is slow and deadlines are (from what I've seen) meaningless - (possibly FUD but) the recent drama [1] </opinion> Don't get me wrong they're doing important work. And I believe them in the sense that they can do cryptography well and they're bringing (a good amount of) privacy to the masses. But they're not less problematic than any other major provider I'm aware of. In the end it boils down to everything sucks™. [1] https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-real-time-surveillance/ https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-real-time-surv...

ocdtrekkie 7y ago

But like... currently you're storing your data in the United States. I would argue that Australia's recent actions is more likely catching up to the status quo of other major nations than anything particularly egregious. If you have very strong concerns about the government requesting your data, you should look at end-to-end solutions like ProtonMail.

t0astbread 7y ago
Oh I think there was a misunderstanding here! I never intended to say FastMail was worse than Google. FastMail (IMO) is still a better choice for lots of reasons. As for ProtonMail: Yes, I've been a ProtonMail customer for about half a year now. However I'm really dissatisfied on a number of ends: <opinion> - the bridge is a bad solution and it doesn't work well - the bridge doesn't exist on Android, tying me into their own client - their own client is proprietary and has GSF dependencies (optional, but still - privacy?) - (this might be due to technical constraints so it might be not valid but) they generally seem to have an aversion against standards - their technical team is slow and deadlines are (from what I've seen) meaningless - (possibly FUD but) the recent drama [1] </opinion> Don't get me wrong they're doing important work. And I believe them in the sense that they can do cryptography well and they're bringing (a good amount of) privacy to the masses. But they're not less problematic than any other major provider I'm aware of. In the end it boils down to everything sucks™. [1] https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-real-time-surveillance/ https://steigerlegal.ch/2019/05/23/protonmail-real-time-surv...