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Does Ry(Zen) now support AVX-512 and thunderbolt? It will be interesting to see if Jim Keller comes up with something for intel too, now that he's there and no

Does Ry(Zen) now support AVX-512 and thunderbolt? It will be interesting to see if Jim Keller comes up with something for intel too, now that he's there and no longer with AMD.

Jonnax 7y ago
From what I remember Thunderbolt is Intel proprietary even though at launch they said it will be open. Does anyone know if that has changed?
- eigenspace 7y ago
  Yes, thunderbolt 3 is open now. There's a few AMD motherboards out there right now that support it but they're not common.
- chupasaurus 7y ago
  TB is a part of USB 4 spec.
pella 7y ago
AVX-512 : not yet ; But has an improved AVX2 "AMD has stated that there is no frequency penalty for AVX2, based on its energy aware frequency platform" https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchite... thunderbolt: in some motherboard: "The ASRock X570 Creator is focused towards content creators with a range of high-end features including 10 G LAN, support for DDR4-4600, and dual Thunderbolt 3 Type-C ports. " https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461/made-for-creators-asrock-x570-creator-with-ddr44600-two-thunderbolt-10g-lan https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461/made-for-creators-asroc...
- Keyframe 7y ago
  Oh! Well, motherboards like this one, with TB support, will certainly nudge me towards AMD. Let's see that ThreadRipper then!
  - sbov 7y ago
    Unfortunately there's no news of threadripper for Zen 2 yet. Hopefully we'll hear something about it sometime next year. The assumption is they're using all their initial production capacity for consumer-grade (Ryzen) and server-grade (Epyc) chips first.
    - bryanlarsen 7y ago
      A new Threadripper has been confirmed for late 2019. https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/3rd-gen-ryzen-threadripper-2019-launch https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/3rd-gen-ryzen-threadripper-2019...
jonathonf 7y ago
AVX-512: No, "only" AVX-256. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#AVX2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#AVX... Thunderbolt 3: Supposed to be added to the X570 chipset.
sp332 7y ago
Some AMD boards already support TB. Gigabyte for example sells an add-on card for some of their motherboards that adds TB3. https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/thunderbolt3/overview https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/thunderbolt3/overview
shmerl 7y ago
Isn't Thunderbolt superseded by USB 4 now (or whatever they'll call it)?
- Matthias247 7y ago
  USB4 might incorporate some TB3 technology, but that doesn't mean that it will be fully compatible. People who have already invested in TB3 (e.g. in a LG 5k screen) would certainly be happy to keep it supported.
  - shmerl 7y ago
    Good to know, thanks. Luckily I never invested in such devices, since they were always Intel only.

Does Ry(Zen) now support AVX-512 and thunderbolt? It will be interesting to see if Jim Keller comes up with something for intel too, now that he's there and no longer with AMD.

Jonnax 7y ago

From what I remember Thunderbolt is Intel proprietary even though at launch they said it will be open. Does anyone know if that has changed?

eigenspace 7y ago
Yes, thunderbolt 3 is open now. There's a few AMD motherboards out there right now that support it but they're not common.
chupasaurus 7y ago
TB is a part of USB 4 spec.

pella 7y ago

AVX-512 : not yet ; But has an improved AVX2 "AMD has stated that there is no frequency penalty for AVX2, based on its energy aware frequency platform" https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchitecture-analysis-ryzen-3000-and-epyc-rome https://www.anandtech.com/print/14525/amd-zen-2-microarchite... thunderbolt: in some motherboard: "The ASRock X570 Creator is focused towards content creators with a range of high-end features including 10 G LAN, support for DDR4-4600, and dual Thunderbolt 3 Type-C ports. " https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461/made-for-creators-asrock-x570-creator-with-ddr44600-two-thunderbolt-10g-lan https://www.anandtech.com/show/14461/made-for-creators-asroc...

Keyframe 7y ago
Oh! Well, motherboards like this one, with TB support, will certainly nudge me towards AMD. Let's see that ThreadRipper then!
- sbov 7y ago
  Unfortunately there's no news of threadripper for Zen 2 yet. Hopefully we'll hear something about it sometime next year. The assumption is they're using all their initial production capacity for consumer-grade (Ryzen) and server-grade (Epyc) chips first.
  - bryanlarsen 7y ago
    A new Threadripper has been confirmed for late 2019. https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/3rd-gen-ryzen-threadripper-2019-launch https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/3rd-gen-ryzen-threadripper-2019...

jonathonf 7y ago

AVX-512: No, "only" AVX-256. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#AVX2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Vector_Extensions#AVX... Thunderbolt 3: Supposed to be added to the X570 chipset.

sp332 7y ago

Some AMD boards already support TB. Gigabyte for example sells an add-on card for some of their motherboards that adds TB3. https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/thunderbolt3/overview https://www.gigabyte.com/mb/thunderbolt3/overview

shmerl 7y ago

Isn't Thunderbolt superseded by USB 4 now (or whatever they'll call it)?

Matthias247 7y ago
USB4 might incorporate some TB3 technology, but that doesn't mean that it will be fully compatible. People who have already invested in TB3 (e.g. in a LG 5k screen) would certainly be happy to keep it supported.
- shmerl 7y ago
  Good to know, thanks. Luckily I never invested in such devices, since they were always Intel only.