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>Microwave ovens work on the ground, and were invented on the ground Microwave ovens do have nothing to do with space I'll give you that, however the microwave

>Microwave ovens work on the ground, and were invented on the ground Microwave ovens do have nothing to do with space I'll give you that, however the microwave oven was effectively invented by Percy Spencer and Raytheon, while working for Raytheon, working on defense related contracts for radar in 1945 and space exploration from its infancy has been hand in hand with defense/military research. >GPS satellites operate under remote control GPS is a direct result of space exploration. Without space exploration, there would be no GPS. Without GPS we'd be producing considerably less food (farming relies heavily on GPS now), there would be far less international shipping (international shipping as it is now, does not work without GPS), without GPS Uber and Lyft would not exist, without GPS the global economy would be drastically different. All because we spent money on space exploration. >don't cure cancer, There has been gobs and gobs of cancer research conducted on ISS. Here's some https://www.issnationallab.org/blog/cancer-research-on-the-space-station/ https://www.issnationallab.org/blog/cancer-research-on-the-s... We have no idea of what we might discover on Mars. Imagine if we find living extremophiles, their genes could be worth a million times their weight in gold (if they are even DNA based) and the discovery alone would be worth every cent we've ever spent on space exploration as a species.

ncmncm 7y ago
So, again, microwave ovens have exactly zero to do with space exploration. By the argument, they might better help to justify deploying nuclear weapons. GPS, likewise, has nothing to do with space exploration. They build them on the ground, and shoot them into orbit, end of story. Further, they don't result in more food production, they just increase profits of tractor owners producing the same amount of food. Any cancer research conducted aboard the ISS is naked opportunism. These read like a parody of actual arguments, that taken seriously would lead a reasonable person to conclude instead that all space exploration is pointless. It is fortunate that none would.
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  >Any cancer research conducted aboard the ISS is naked opportunism. Um, there are experiments you can do in microgravity that you absolutely can not do on earth. For one there's no convection due to different relative densities, virtually no no hydrostatic pressure exists, crystals grow larger and more pure which allows for all sorts of things (like far more efficient semiconductors), alloys made in microgravity are more uniform and perform better, etc etc so on and so forth. We get it, you hate space, that doesn't mean it isn't a gold mine of future innovation.
  - ncmncm 7y ago
    No one has demonstrated any benefits of space-grown crystals. Semiconductor makers have shown no interest in orbital fabrication. Sintering enables any alloy mixture without weightlessness, and without worry over miscibility that would remain a problem in a weightless melt. I don't hate space. I just really hate nonsensical, fallacious, and dishonest claims. Promoting falsehoods poisons the well, making legitimate motivations suspect.

ncmncm 7y ago

So, again, microwave ovens have exactly zero to do with space exploration. By the argument, they might better help to justify deploying nuclear weapons. GPS, likewise, has nothing to do with space exploration. They build them on the ground, and shoot them into orbit, end of story. Further, they don't result in more food production, they just increase profits of tractor owners producing the same amount of food. Any cancer research conducted aboard the ISS is naked opportunism. These read like a parody of actual arguments, that taken seriously would lead a reasonable person to conclude instead that all space exploration is pointless. It is fortunate that none would.

ryanmercer 7y ago
>Any cancer research conducted aboard the ISS is naked opportunism. Um, there are experiments you can do in microgravity that you absolutely can not do on earth. For one there's no convection due to different relative densities, virtually no no hydrostatic pressure exists, crystals grow larger and more pure which allows for all sorts of things (like far more efficient semiconductors), alloys made in microgravity are more uniform and perform better, etc etc so on and so forth. We get it, you hate space, that doesn't mean it isn't a gold mine of future innovation.
- ncmncm 7y ago
  No one has demonstrated any benefits of space-grown crystals. Semiconductor makers have shown no interest in orbital fabrication. Sintering enables any alloy mixture without weightlessness, and without worry over miscibility that would remain a problem in a weightless melt. I don't hate space. I just really hate nonsensical, fallacious, and dishonest claims. Promoting falsehoods poisons the well, making legitimate motivations suspect.