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I'm not sure friendly is a word I would use to describe Iran, and Saudi Arabia would exist with or without American support. The US-Saudi alliance is rocky at
by noelsusman 7y ago
I'm not sure friendly is a word I would use to describe Iran, and Saudi Arabia would exist with or without American support. The US-Saudi alliance is rocky at best, and only exists because the Saudis have oil, and largely persists because Saudi hates Iran, which is important to the US because of their strong alliance to Israel. You have to choose sides in the Middle East, and the US chose Israel. Everything else flows from there.
The US is an enabler of Saudi nonsense, but the Saudi state is not being propped up with American resources. They would be powerful in the region regardless of American support.
- luckylion 7y ago> Saudi Arabia would exist with or without American support At the same level? I have my doubts. If they weren't a close ally of the US, terrorist financing/leading stings would be going much further. Would they be able to do their thing in Yemen without US support? Or would they be a pariah on the world stage because of their acts, which are hard to tell apart from those of ISIS/ISIL? Not that I'm a big fan of the Iranian Mullahs and their backwards idea of how to run a society, but they appear somewhat moderate compared to the wahabi style.
- KorematsuFred 7y agoTotally second that. Saudi arabia has been pumping money in India to radicalize muslims with active encouragement from USA. Attempts to stop this fund has always invoked American ire. India's strategic efforts to buy Oil from Iran instead of Barbaria have been hurt by United States. Without american help Saudi Barbaria would be a wasteland. America not just tolerate Barbaria but every actively helps them on international stage.
- hiram112 7y ago> Saudi arabia has been pumping money in India to radicalize muslims with active encouragement from USA Active encouragement? Or more like, America can't dictate foreign policy of every country in the world nor control what every wealthy Saudi sheikh does in his spare time.
- irrational 7y agoWhy do you keep writing Barbaria instead of Arabia? At first I thought it was a typo, but you keep using it. Is that how Arabia is spelled in your native language?
- southphillyman 7y agoI had the same question. I think it's a way to throw a jab at the kingdom's treatment of female citizens.......
- ionised 7y agoMight be referring the the fact that it is a barbaric tyrannical state.
- sremani 7y agoRadicalization financing is nothing new from KSA and is not confined to madrassas of India. South East Asia, Europe and Americas have seen their fair share of this. As far Iran sanctions and oil imports of India is concerned that is largely collateral damage. USA and India have complicated relationship, at the surface level they should be allies but at the second level India's in-cohesive politics and financial reforms have added up such a way, US does not see a reliable partner in India and India's interests do not overlap with US given its neighborhood. There are other parties to blame outside of Americans for the religiously charged climate in India.
- dang 7y agoWould you please stop posting political battle-style comments to HN? Also, this Barbaria thing is flamebait; please don't do that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- KorematsuFred 7y agoAnother Saudi Shill spotted !
- noelsusman 7y agoThings would be significantly different in hard to predict ways. I'm just saying that "Saudi Arabia wouldn't exist without America" is extremely wrong.