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During the single day of this test, I found three Wheels with intentionally cut brake lines WTF is wrong with people? I understand these things are annoying an

During the single day of this test, I found three Wheels with intentionally cut brake lines WTF is wrong with people? I understand these things are annoying and litter sidewalks, but intentionally cutting brakes to harm someone? Jeez, this is just shitty behavior

toyg 7y ago
Evil and insane people unfortunately do exist. Some of the failures of modern technology are directly related to refusing or ignoring this inconvenient truth.
- bryanlarsen 7y ago
  And some of the worst abuses of power and technology have come from assuming that evil people are relatively common rather than extremely rare.
  - toyg 7y ago
    Sadly, crime is fundamentally asymmetric: a small number of bad actors can inflict damage and pain on a large number of victims. This is particularly well-known in the domain of public urban facilities, where everything can be assumed to suffer vandalism or sabotage at any given time. You only need a handful of thugs to have a “gang” that can effectively demolish anything fairly quickly, including facilities used by hundreds or thousands of people. Defensive design, in this domain, is not just warranted but necessary.
cjrp 7y ago
> Jeez, this is just shitty behavior Also, manslaughter.
- anchpop 7y ago
  If it's done with malice and forethought, is it not just murder?
md2be 7y ago
You know what shitty behavior is ? Riding on the sidewalks. Fucking with these scooters in any manner is a form of resistance.
- deleted 7y ago
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- justaguyhere 7y ago
  I understand why people want to fuck with these, but cutting brakes is taking it too far. This is just lazy, disgusting form or "resistance", as you call it. Somebody commented about painting over the QR code, that seems sensible.
- typenil 7y ago
  Scooters are annoying so it's ok to potentially injure strangers? The mental gymnastics are baffling.
- colpabar 7y ago
  If I have a problem with bikes lanes, is it okay for me to drive my car in them? Is it okay for people to park in front of EV charging stations with their big trucks? Both could be described as acts of "resistance".
- archi42 7y ago
  Abstracting this basically yields: "Random stranger X did something that is not right to do, so I'll hurt another random gal/guy Y for that"? Dear god, I hope you live really far away from me.
  - toyg 7y ago
    Punish 1 to educate 100, as a famous founder of a new superpower famously said. Except that strategy could work only if the 100 actually got to hear of the punished one, which will likely not be the case in this particular scenario.
  - HillaryBriss 7y ago
lathiat 7y ago
Seems like they will need to add aggressive regenerative braking to all of these things not for the power savings but for safety. And somehow integrate a single lever to control both (like many electric cars do)
FussyZeus 7y ago
You know people give Americans shit for opposing anything 'public' but it's not a sentiment out of nowhere. Everything made for public use is abused and turned to complete shit. Not sure if it's a cultural thing or what.
- asdff 7y ago
  American apathy is a real thing. People used to love public works and public institutions, then the funds supporting these public good endeavors were slowly slashed and looted in the second half of the 20th century, leading to a lack of maintenance and improvement all while the population was growing. People look at a destroyed public bathroom and blame society, smirk at how shitty and nonfunctional the government is, and put on their blinders and move on with their lives. People don't look at the bathroom and say "we should hire more public custodians to support our city services." People even vote, and campaign against education funding measures. We've reached a point where there is so much inertia to improve the smallest things, that's pretty scary.
  - justaguyhere 7y ago
    I don't think this apathy is just unique to Americans. I feel like today's population in general (across the world) is more tolerating and expects less from their governments and leaders compared to say 60-70 years ago. We don't see protests like the old days. I don't know the reason - maybe student debt (people are too stressed out about paying back their loans etc that they don't have time for anything else), stagnant wages (people have to do multiple jobs to make ends meet), maybe because cops have much easier/powerful ways of tracking anyone they want, I dunno.
    - FussyZeus 7y ago
      I can't speak for elsewhere, but here in America corporate news media has been spreading anti-Government propaganda for literally decades, backed up by the Republicans slowly gutting every Government program or system and making their provided services suffer. Once things get bad enough, they subcontract the service to a private company. The company does things just as poorly as the Government did, but they keep it consistently bad which is framed as an improvement as opposed to slow degradation. A great example of this was when the American Healthcare Act was being passed, and Republican lawmakers spent a ton of time gutting the requirements for the insurers and cutting Government subsidies to those insurers to offset their costs, only so they could then complain about the onerous and overbearing requirements (the ones that remained, anyway) and blame the Government for not being willing to help offset the costs (the money which they refused to grant for such purpose). Meanwhile we've spent trillions on a plane none of our armed forces asked for that hasn't flown a single mission. But no, the single mom buying food on EBT coupons is what's crippling us.
virusduck 7y ago
I see it in my city--people get so worked up about these scooters on local social media or in editorials, they create a mob mentality. I can see where this drops the taboo in some folks' minds about causing harm o whomever uses the scooters. It's a result of people's attempts to dehumanize those they don't agree with.

toyg 7y ago

Evil and insane people unfortunately do exist. Some of the failures of modern technology are directly related to refusing or ignoring this inconvenient truth.

bryanlarsen 7y ago
And some of the worst abuses of power and technology have come from assuming that evil people are relatively common rather than extremely rare.
- toyg 7y ago
  Sadly, crime is fundamentally asymmetric: a small number of bad actors can inflict damage and pain on a large number of victims. This is particularly well-known in the domain of public urban facilities, where everything can be assumed to suffer vandalism or sabotage at any given time. You only need a handful of thugs to have a “gang” that can effectively demolish anything fairly quickly, including facilities used by hundreds or thousands of people. Defensive design, in this domain, is not just warranted but necessary.

cjrp 7y ago

> Jeez, this is just shitty behavior Also, manslaughter.

anchpop 7y ago
If it's done with malice and forethought, is it not just murder?

md2be 7y ago

You know what shitty behavior is ? Riding on the sidewalks. Fucking with these scooters in any manner is a form of resistance.

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justaguyhere 7y ago
I understand why people want to fuck with these, but cutting brakes is taking it too far. This is just lazy, disgusting form or "resistance", as you call it. Somebody commented about painting over the QR code, that seems sensible.
typenil 7y ago
Scooters are annoying so it's ok to potentially injure strangers? The mental gymnastics are baffling.
colpabar 7y ago
If I have a problem with bikes lanes, is it okay for me to drive my car in them? Is it okay for people to park in front of EV charging stations with their big trucks? Both could be described as acts of "resistance".
archi42 7y ago
Abstracting this basically yields: "Random stranger X did something that is not right to do, so I'll hurt another random gal/guy Y for that"? Dear god, I hope you live really far away from me.
- toyg 7y ago
  Punish 1 to educate 100, as a famous founder of a new superpower famously said. Except that strategy could work only if the 100 actually got to hear of the punished one, which will likely not be the case in this particular scenario.
- HillaryBriss 7y ago

lathiat 7y ago

Seems like they will need to add aggressive regenerative braking to all of these things not for the power savings but for safety. And somehow integrate a single lever to control both (like many electric cars do)

FussyZeus 7y ago

You know people give Americans shit for opposing anything 'public' but it's not a sentiment out of nowhere. Everything made for public use is abused and turned to complete shit. Not sure if it's a cultural thing or what.

asdff 7y ago
American apathy is a real thing. People used to love public works and public institutions, then the funds supporting these public good endeavors were slowly slashed and looted in the second half of the 20th century, leading to a lack of maintenance and improvement all while the population was growing. People look at a destroyed public bathroom and blame society, smirk at how shitty and nonfunctional the government is, and put on their blinders and move on with their lives. People don't look at the bathroom and say "we should hire more public custodians to support our city services." People even vote, and campaign against education funding measures. We've reached a point where there is so much inertia to improve the smallest things, that's pretty scary.
- justaguyhere 7y ago
  I don't think this apathy is just unique to Americans. I feel like today's population in general (across the world) is more tolerating and expects less from their governments and leaders compared to say 60-70 years ago. We don't see protests like the old days. I don't know the reason - maybe student debt (people are too stressed out about paying back their loans etc that they don't have time for anything else), stagnant wages (people have to do multiple jobs to make ends meet), maybe because cops have much easier/powerful ways of tracking anyone they want, I dunno.
  - FussyZeus 7y ago
    I can't speak for elsewhere, but here in America corporate news media has been spreading anti-Government propaganda for literally decades, backed up by the Republicans slowly gutting every Government program or system and making their provided services suffer. Once things get bad enough, they subcontract the service to a private company. The company does things just as poorly as the Government did, but they keep it consistently bad which is framed as an improvement as opposed to slow degradation. A great example of this was when the American Healthcare Act was being passed, and Republican lawmakers spent a ton of time gutting the requirements for the insurers and cutting Government subsidies to those insurers to offset their costs, only so they could then complain about the onerous and overbearing requirements (the ones that remained, anyway) and blame the Government for not being willing to help offset the costs (the money which they refused to grant for such purpose). Meanwhile we've spent trillions on a plane none of our armed forces asked for that hasn't flown a single mission. But no, the single mom buying food on EBT coupons is what's crippling us.

virusduck 7y ago

I see it in my city--people get so worked up about these scooters on local social media or in editorials, they create a mob mentality. I can see where this drops the taboo in some folks' minds about causing harm o whomever uses the scooters. It's a result of people's attempts to dehumanize those they don't agree with.