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Does this really fall foul of GDPR? I would have guessed that once your data is in the wild, there is nothing in GDPR that applies. GDPR puts certain responsibi

Does this really fall foul of GDPR? I would have guessed that once your data is in the wild, there is nothing in GDPR that applies. GDPR puts certain responsibilities on groups you give your data to treat that data in certain ways in terms of who it is shared with, which would not seem to apply to someone offering a lookup of an in the wild dataset. I'm curious if my naive understanding of this is wrong.

addicted 7y ago
I’m not sure how GDPR applies to HIBP. GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. But HIBP is about data that hasn’t been shared by a user, but rather, is available publicly. It’s a grey area at the very least.
- DanBC 7y ago
  > GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. No it isn't. It covers my data no matter how you got it, with a few exceptions. EDIT: Please feel free to point to the legislation showing that GDPR only applies to data supplied by the subject.
  - cameronbrown 7y ago
    You're not wrong, but purely from a practical standpoint, your data is out there and without a service like this to hold these companies to account, they could cover things up/downplay the situation/be too incompetent to know they've leaked data. An operation like this levels the playing field and lets us collectively hold companies to their responsibilities.
  - jfdhu 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Scope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula... "The regulation applies if the data controller (an organisation that collects data from EU residents), or processor (an organisation that processes data on behalf of a data controller like cloud service providers), or the data subject (person) is based in the EU. Under certain circumstances,[2] the regulation also applies to organisations based outside the EU if they collect or process personal data of individuals located inside the EU. The regulation does not apply to the processing of data by a person for a "purely personal or household activity and thus with no connection to a professional or commercial activity." (Recital 18) " The EU laws apply to people and entities outside of the EU, he is not immune from these EU laws because he is affecting the lives of every European who has an email address in this website.
- M2Ys4U 7y ago
  >GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. Wrong, wrong, wrong. GDPR covers the processing of any data about an identified or identifiable individual.
samwillis 7y ago
It’s a very easy fix, confirm ownership of the email address before exposing the results.
- _underfl0w_ 7y ago
  ...if the password for said email address is already visible on the same page (assuming negligent password reuse) what kind of verification could you hope for?
  - AshleyGrant 7y ago
    Have you actually used HIBP?
- jfdhu 7y ago
  Only if in possession of the email address or domain name. Where an email address or domain name has been taken over by someone else, then sending the results to the email address instead of currently showing it on the webpage doesnt solve the problem. This data set is ripe for blackmailers, intelligence services and any company looking for intelligence on rival businesses.
OskarS 7y ago
Presumably it's partly questions like these that make Troy Hunt eager to find people with money and lawyers to help him host this thing.

addicted 7y ago

I’m not sure how GDPR applies to HIBP. GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. But HIBP is about data that hasn’t been shared by a user, but rather, is available publicly. It’s a grey area at the very least.

DanBC 7y ago
> GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. No it isn't. It covers my data no matter how you got it, with a few exceptions. EDIT: Please feel free to point to the legislation showing that GDPR only applies to data supplied by the subject.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  You're not wrong, but purely from a practical standpoint, your data is out there and without a service like this to hold these companies to account, they could cover things up/downplay the situation/be too incompetent to know they've leaked data. An operation like this levels the playing field and lets us collectively hold companies to their responsibilities.
- jfdhu 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Scope https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula... "The regulation applies if the data controller (an organisation that collects data from EU residents), or processor (an organisation that processes data on behalf of a data controller like cloud service providers), or the data subject (person) is based in the EU. Under certain circumstances,[2] the regulation also applies to organisations based outside the EU if they collect or process personal data of individuals located inside the EU. The regulation does not apply to the processing of data by a person for a "purely personal or household activity and thus with no connection to a professional or commercial activity." (Recital 18) " The EU laws apply to people and entities outside of the EU, he is not immune from these EU laws because he is affecting the lives of every European who has an email address in this website.
M2Ys4U 7y ago
>GDPR is all about data that is shared by the user. Wrong, wrong, wrong. GDPR covers the processing of any data about an identified or identifiable individual.

samwillis 7y ago

It’s a very easy fix, confirm ownership of the email address before exposing the results.

_underfl0w_ 7y ago
...if the password for said email address is already visible on the same page (assuming negligent password reuse) what kind of verification could you hope for?
- AshleyGrant 7y ago
  Have you actually used HIBP?
jfdhu 7y ago
Only if in possession of the email address or domain name. Where an email address or domain name has been taken over by someone else, then sending the results to the email address instead of currently showing it on the webpage doesnt solve the problem. This data set is ripe for blackmailers, intelligence services and any company looking for intelligence on rival businesses.

OskarS 7y ago

Presumably it's partly questions like these that make Troy Hunt eager to find people with money and lawyers to help him host this thing.