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Yes! I’ve been having this issue for days but assumed it was just me. It is particularly frustrating for sites like Reddit where the AMP version is too aggressi

Yes! I’ve been having this issue for days but assumed it was just me. It is particularly frustrating for sites like Reddit where the AMP version is too aggressively cached and misses most of the recent comments.

ehnto 7y ago
It feels like a solution to a problem no one was having, and now it's breaking the internet for people who never asked to use it.
- loudtieblahblah 7y ago
  Reddit mobile is ridiculously slow in a browser. But they did it to themselves. i.reddit.com is fast as hell. m.reddit.com loads 100x the Javascript. Thus Amp fixes a probme they created bc reasons.
  - ehnto 7y ago
    Exactly, I am of the opinion that users and sites should figure it out. Google as a middleware for your entire user experience is a crazy idea for so many reasons. Most of the JS is part of the different ad tech networks anyway. Hell, maybe that's their drive? Making it harder to have competiting ad tech?
  - petepete 7y ago
    In almost all situations, I prefer the mobile web over apps. But reddit's mobile offerings are _so bad_ compared to Reddit Sync. I know at some point Reddit will pull the plug on third party apps, and that's when I stop using Reddit.
    - loudtieblahblah 7y ago
      They made it bad intentionally so you'd install their app
mattmanser 7y ago
Reddit implementing AMP seems such a bad decision, it defies the entire point of the site.
- gatherhunterer 7y ago
  I looked at Reddit recently for the first time in a long time and the whole thing is a train wreck of marketing decisions built on shoddy code. If you look up a user who doesn’t exist[1] their karma reads “undefined”. If you navigate to their comments or about page (an info page for reddit accounts... why?) the site routes you to those pages with the value “undefined” as the username. But there is an actual user who chose that name so now you’re looking at their account page. 1.https://www.reddit.com/user/unidan https://www.reddit.com/user/unidan
tannhaeuser 7y ago
Reddit plays it's own games. While they dropped the aggressive "Use app" nagging, they now frequently and purposefully (?) break back-navigation (eg. from individual posts to the subreddit) with the all too common "Oh snap. Something went wrong" and cutesy picture excuse for a dysfunctional site.
- bitL 7y ago
  Reddit is fun now; start Tor, try to visit a soon-to-be-banned sub-reddit, enjoy Tor's tracking notifications not present on normal reddit sub-reddits. Looks like reddit is turning into one large honeypot.
  - heinrich5991 7y ago
    I don't understand, can you elaborate? What are Tor's tracking notifications?
    - seieste 7y ago
      I think bitL is saying that reddit embeds some sort of tracking script in “soon-to-be-banned subreddits” that they don’t embed in normal subteddits, and that you can tell this from notifications within Tor
      - playpause 7y ago
        Still don't follow. Why track soon-to-be-banned subreddits differently?
        seieste 7y ago
        I'm not sure. bitL deleted his/her earlier response saying we had to test it for ourselves
        bitL 7y ago
        Don't ask me, it's just an observation. I don't think Reddit employs imbeciles so the usual "oops, a bug there!" is unlikely. But given it's pretty easy to track a visitor across multiple social networks in real time, including their real identity, it's good to be aware of it and even being a bit paranoid about one's privacy while on Reddit.

ehnto 7y ago

It feels like a solution to a problem no one was having, and now it's breaking the internet for people who never asked to use it.

loudtieblahblah 7y ago
Reddit mobile is ridiculously slow in a browser. But they did it to themselves. i.reddit.com is fast as hell. m.reddit.com loads 100x the Javascript. Thus Amp fixes a probme they created bc reasons.
- ehnto 7y ago
  Exactly, I am of the opinion that users and sites should figure it out. Google as a middleware for your entire user experience is a crazy idea for so many reasons. Most of the JS is part of the different ad tech networks anyway. Hell, maybe that's their drive? Making it harder to have competiting ad tech?
- petepete 7y ago
  In almost all situations, I prefer the mobile web over apps. But reddit's mobile offerings are _so bad_ compared to Reddit Sync. I know at some point Reddit will pull the plug on third party apps, and that's when I stop using Reddit.
  - loudtieblahblah 7y ago
    They made it bad intentionally so you'd install their app

mattmanser 7y ago

Reddit implementing AMP seems such a bad decision, it defies the entire point of the site.

gatherhunterer 7y ago
I looked at Reddit recently for the first time in a long time and the whole thing is a train wreck of marketing decisions built on shoddy code. If you look up a user who doesn’t exist[1] their karma reads “undefined”. If you navigate to their comments or about page (an info page for reddit accounts... why?) the site routes you to those pages with the value “undefined” as the username. But there is an actual user who chose that name so now you’re looking at their account page. 1.https://www.reddit.com/user/unidan https://www.reddit.com/user/unidan

tannhaeuser 7y ago

Reddit plays it's own games. While they dropped the aggressive "Use app" nagging, they now frequently and purposefully (?) break back-navigation (eg. from individual posts to the subreddit) with the all too common "Oh snap. Something went wrong" and cutesy picture excuse for a dysfunctional site.

bitL 7y ago
Reddit is fun now; start Tor, try to visit a soon-to-be-banned sub-reddit, enjoy Tor's tracking notifications not present on normal reddit sub-reddits. Looks like reddit is turning into one large honeypot.
- heinrich5991 7y ago
  I don't understand, can you elaborate? What are Tor's tracking notifications?
  - seieste 7y ago
    I think bitL is saying that reddit embeds some sort of tracking script in “soon-to-be-banned subreddits” that they don’t embed in normal subteddits, and that you can tell this from notifications within Tor
    - playpause 7y ago
      Still don't follow. Why track soon-to-be-banned subreddits differently?
      - seieste 7y ago
        I'm not sure. bitL deleted his/her earlier response saying we had to test it for ourselves
      - bitL 7y ago
        Don't ask me, it's just an observation. I don't think Reddit employs imbeciles so the usual "oops, a bug there!" is unlikely. But given it's pretty easy to track a visitor across multiple social networks in real time, including their real identity, it's good to be aware of it and even being a bit paranoid about one's privacy while on Reddit.