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>>A political cartoon hasn't made me laugh or think deeply in years. This probably says more about you than about political cartoons as a medium. Is it possib

>>A political cartoon hasn't made me laugh or think deeply in years. This probably says more about you than about political cartoons as a medium. Is it possible that you have become so used to over-the-top memes and shallow animated shows with instant-gratification "satire" that you have lost the ability (and/or patience) to pause and ponder the subtler, many-layered messages underneath traditional cartoons?

jimmaswell 7y ago
Could you post one of these alleged subtle and multi-layered political cartoons, with a short analysis?
- probably_wrong 7y ago
  I learned last month that there's a Pulitzer price in Editorial Cartooning. This is the winner of 2019 (and the runner ups), so I'd say that's as good as it gets: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/darrin-bell-freelancer https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/darrin-bell-freelancer
  - MrMember 7y ago
    Political cartoonists really like Trump's long ties.
NE2z2T9qi 7y ago
Yes, it must be the subtlety and witty nuance that throws me off. https://www.chappatte.com/en/images/trump-overdose/ https://www.chappatte.com/en/images/trump-overdose/
Bakary 7y ago
The traditional cartoons aren't subtler and multi-layered though for the most part. The commentary usually defaults to some tautogical theme along the lines of "wouldn't it better if world had more of peace or some other good quality and less of war or some other bad quality". It's then interspersed with some self-referential pieces about their own profession where characters have pencils replacing weapons or whichever object you'd expect instead. They all too often have to label the elements in the picture to make it comprehensible, which ruins its impact. Some of the funniest cartoons tend instead to have a cynical or absurdist take on things, which is not too far off from a high-quality meme.
hybrids 7y ago
Putting giant labels on top of everything and making grotesque caricatures of political figures is not what I would call subtle
- enraged_camel 7y ago
  Yeah, those are not very good

jimmaswell 7y ago

Could you post one of these alleged subtle and multi-layered political cartoons, with a short analysis?

probably_wrong 7y ago
I learned last month that there's a Pulitzer price in Editorial Cartooning. This is the winner of 2019 (and the runner ups), so I'd say that's as good as it gets: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/darrin-bell-freelancer https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/darrin-bell-freelancer
- MrMember 7y ago
  Political cartoonists really like Trump's long ties.

NE2z2T9qi 7y ago

Yes, it must be the subtlety and witty nuance that throws me off. https://www.chappatte.com/en/images/trump-overdose/ https://www.chappatte.com/en/images/trump-overdose/

Bakary 7y ago

The traditional cartoons aren't subtler and multi-layered though for the most part. The commentary usually defaults to some tautogical theme along the lines of "wouldn't it better if world had more of peace or some other good quality and less of war or some other bad quality". It's then interspersed with some self-referential pieces about their own profession where characters have pencils replacing weapons or whichever object you'd expect instead. They all too often have to label the elements in the picture to make it comprehensible, which ruins its impact. Some of the funniest cartoons tend instead to have a cynical or absurdist take on things, which is not too far off from a high-quality meme.

hybrids 7y ago

Putting giant labels on top of everything and making grotesque caricatures of political figures is not what I would call subtle

enraged_camel 7y ago
Yeah, those are not very good