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So, emacs is a platform for text-based programs to do things that i already have other stable, reliable, and familiar programs to accomplish. I’m not sold. I

by lame88 7y ago

So, emacs is a platform for text-based programs to do things that i already have other stable, reliable, and familiar programs to accomplish. I’m not sold. I need a better value proposition before i feel sold to spend my time climbing that learning curve.

ernst_klim 7y ago
>text-based programs Not text based, it has buttons, widgets, can embed pictures and graphics. >reliable, and familiar programs to accomplish In emacs these bits of code are integrated, so I could, for example, save an IRC chat as buffer, edit it, and send a e-mail. Or open an interactive REPL of maxima, for example, copy result to latex having embedded previews for formulas, and then compile it to pdf (and preview in emacs). Different parts could be combined in any possible way with elisp code. You can easily call any email-related or rfeed-related function from your code at any time.
- dmitriid 7y ago
  The question is: is it worth it? Trying to figure out all those functions, setting all tose modes, and then programming them the way you described. Especially when all you just described can be done with regular copy-paste between dedicated programs if needed.
unhammer 7y ago
> Even something which seems like a tiny, inconsequential frustration affects your mood. Your emotions don’t seem to care about the magnitude of the event, only the quality. > The more you feel that you can control your environment, and that the things you do are actually working, the happier you are. When you find yourself frustrated, angry, and upset, it’s probably because of something that happened that you could not control: even something small. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/24/user-interface-design-for-programmers/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/24/user-interface-des... is actually a great argument for Emacs (even though the only time Emacs is mentioned there is an example of inconsistencies in keyboards shortcuts with other editors).

by lame88 7y ago

ernst_klim 7y ago

>text-based programs Not text based, it has buttons, widgets, can embed pictures and graphics. >reliable, and familiar programs to accomplish In emacs these bits of code are integrated, so I could, for example, save an IRC chat as buffer, edit it, and send a e-mail. Or open an interactive REPL of maxima, for example, copy result to latex having embedded previews for formulas, and then compile it to pdf (and preview in emacs). Different parts could be combined in any possible way with elisp code. You can easily call any email-related or rfeed-related function from your code at any time.

dmitriid 7y ago
The question is: is it worth it? Trying to figure out all those functions, setting all tose modes, and then programming them the way you described. Especially when all you just described can be done with regular copy-paste between dedicated programs if needed.

unhammer 7y ago

> Even something which seems like a tiny, inconsequential frustration affects your mood. Your emotions don’t seem to care about the magnitude of the event, only the quality. > The more you feel that you can control your environment, and that the things you do are actually working, the happier you are. When you find yourself frustrated, angry, and upset, it’s probably because of something that happened that you could not control: even something small. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/24/user-interface-design-for-programmers/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/10/24/user-interface-des... is actually a great argument for Emacs (even though the only time Emacs is mentioned there is an example of inconsistencies in keyboards shortcuts with other editors).