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As a third party observer of this exchange who did not hold opinions on molyneux before encountering it: * honestly you’ve completely convinced me that molyneu

As a third party observer of this exchange who did not hold opinions on molyneux before encountering it: * honestly you’ve completely convinced me that molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!! * but you haven’t convinced me he’s a literal white supremacist because he just doesn’t seem to be quoted anywhere asserting the supremacy of white people. I think you did an incredibly good job proving that he is for sure “white supremacy-adjacent,” and also a fuckin weirdo d-bag. But compared to explicitly self-identifying white supremacists like Richard Spencer, Molyneux does not seem like a white supremacist. All that said, fuck him. Those quotes you posted are insane.

mistermann 7y ago
Nice to see at least some people getting some enjoyment out of this exhibition! I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out I don't disagree with sentiments like "molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!!", I think that seems like a fairly reasonable conclusion that could be backed up with plenty of evidence. I honestly have trouble watching the guy, he creeps me out. The point of my participation in these types of discussion, at least in part, is to illustrate how prone people on the extreme poles of both sides of political spectrum are to non-evidence-based thinking. Making fun of idiot Trump supporters is like shooting fish in a barrel, but look how easy it is for genuinely intelligent people to hold beliefs that are based on memes confused for facts, and how increasingly anti-intellectual and epistemically dishonest they can become when mistakes are pointed out in the basis of their beliefs. And to anyone who thinks "well who cares, at the end of the day we're far more correct", which is certainly true, I would urge them to pay attention to whether extremist half-truths used on the left are ever used as ammunition in the ongoing culture wars, both by people like Molyneux as well as plain old enthusiasts online. If I think hard enough, I might even be able to come up with two or three instances where it was used in a recent political campaign. Two possibly relevant sayings: "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It." "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table."

mistermann 7y ago

Nice to see at least some people getting some enjoyment out of this exhibition! I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out I don't disagree with sentiments like "molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!!", I think that seems like a fairly reasonable conclusion that could be backed up with plenty of evidence. I honestly have trouble watching the guy, he creeps me out. The point of my participation in these types of discussion, at least in part, is to illustrate how prone people on the extreme poles of both sides of political spectrum are to non-evidence-based thinking. Making fun of idiot Trump supporters is like shooting fish in a barrel, but look how easy it is for genuinely intelligent people to hold beliefs that are based on memes confused for facts, and how increasingly anti-intellectual and epistemically dishonest they can become when mistakes are pointed out in the basis of their beliefs. And to anyone who thinks "well who cares, at the end of the day we're far more correct", which is certainly true, I would urge them to pay attention to whether extremist half-truths used on the left are ever used as ammunition in the ongoing culture wars, both by people like Molyneux as well as plain old enthusiasts online. If I think hard enough, I might even be able to come up with two or three instances where it was used in a recent political campaign. Two possibly relevant sayings: "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It." "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table."