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I stopped teaching Tableau because of the licensing costs to my students. Tableau feels more polished than PowerBI although BI has pretty much reached feature

by sireat 7y ago

I stopped teaching Tableau because of the licensing costs to my students. Tableau feels more polished than PowerBI although BI has pretty much reached feature parity with Tableau. The problem is the licensing costs. PowerBI is very affordable ($10 a month) while Tableau is not($70 and UP). Tableau is basically saying, unless you have a corporation paying for the license err SAAS subscription do not bother to use us. https://www.tableau.com/pricing/individual https://www.tableau.com/pricing/individual There was a free option that was pitifuly unused and crippled to cloud only without any exports. Then again by focusing only on companies for whom the licensing costs are a drop in a cloudy ocean Tableau brought in a 16B valuation.

ineedasername 7y ago
>I stopped teaching Tableau because of the licensing costs to my students. Weren't you using offer of free licenses for teaching environments? Those are full versions, albeit they do not include Server, but that's not really necessary to learn how to make solid BI dashboards.
philshem 7y ago
PowerBI has no Mac client.
turtlebits 7y ago
Tableau is free for students and teachers. (1 year license) https://www.tableau.com/academic/students https://www.tableau.com/academic/students. It's not crippled.
- bduerst 7y ago
  I used to teach Tableau too and while you're right, the tool still becomes useless after graduation because of the ~$1000/yr price tag. From there, tableau becomes a "learn it just to get hired at a company that might use it" tactic, which is a valid job hunting strategy but is not something useful to learn in a data viz class, especially since there are other data viz tools the students can learn and keep using after graduation.
  - turtlebits 7y ago
    Are you teaching how to use Tableau (the product) or Data science/BI? Because I don't think you should be learning how to use a specific software product at school unless it's vocational. That said, I don't see why any student couldn't continue using the free Public version.
    - sireat 7y ago
      You are aware how crippled the free Tableau version is? Just public dashboards no saving functionality at all. Judging by the sparsity of the public dashboards seemingly no one is using the free version. As bduerst said, learning Tableau is only useful if your employer will be paying for it. So I briefly cover Power BI and concentrate on Python. I'd rather spend more time on various visualization methods in Python.

by sireat 7y ago

ineedasername 7y ago

>I stopped teaching Tableau because of the licensing costs to my students. Weren't you using offer of free licenses for teaching environments? Those are full versions, albeit they do not include Server, but that's not really necessary to learn how to make solid BI dashboards.

philshem 7y ago

PowerBI has no Mac client.

turtlebits 7y ago

Tableau is free for students and teachers. (1 year license) https://www.tableau.com/academic/students https://www.tableau.com/academic/students. It's not crippled.

bduerst 7y ago
I used to teach Tableau too and while you're right, the tool still becomes useless after graduation because of the ~$1000/yr price tag. From there, tableau becomes a "learn it just to get hired at a company that might use it" tactic, which is a valid job hunting strategy but is not something useful to learn in a data viz class, especially since there are other data viz tools the students can learn and keep using after graduation.
- turtlebits 7y ago
  Are you teaching how to use Tableau (the product) or Data science/BI? Because I don't think you should be learning how to use a specific software product at school unless it's vocational. That said, I don't see why any student couldn't continue using the free Public version.
  - sireat 7y ago
    You are aware how crippled the free Tableau version is? Just public dashboards no saving functionality at all. Judging by the sparsity of the public dashboards seemingly no one is using the free version. As bduerst said, learning Tableau is only useful if your employer will be paying for it. So I briefly cover Power BI and concentrate on Python. I'd rather spend more time on various visualization methods in Python.