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I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?

by shawnz 7y ago

novaleaf 7y ago
if this is true, I'd love to hear the alternate! I use recaptcha and hate that my chinese customers need to do wacky stuff to circumvent it.
- vinay_ys 7y ago
  Just out of curiosity, why do you use reCaptcha?
- judge2020 7y ago
  Not sure if this is "officially" supported but I believe you can proxy the `api.js` file yourself without issue.
  - fasthandle 7y ago
    The photos or voice still needs to come from from somewhere. The somewhere is google.com. The .com is blocked.
    - shawnz 7y ago
      Please see my other reply in this thread: "recaptcha.net" can also be used. Is that blocked in China too? I can't find a clear answer.
      - fasthandle 7y ago
        I pinged recapture.net and got a 50ms response time. Baidu would give a 20ms response time. That's on WiFi. That leads me to think the server responding to these pings is in certainly in mainland China, I think in Alibaba's IP range, but probably not a CDN. Interesting, thanks.
- shawnz 7y ago
  See: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq Look under the section "use recaptcha globally" -- this is what I was referring to. However it's not clear to me if this approach enables use in China or not.
  - Theodores 7y ago
    Thanks for that. Changing to www.recaptcha.net right now! Could be a while before I get enquiries from China but there is only one way to find out. Google did say 'globally'...
- mdekkers 7y ago
  >I use recaptcha Please consider not using recaptcha, it is the herpes of the web.
fasthandle 7y ago
reCAPTCHA does not work in China mainland (it does in HK, but that's different for now). But translate.google.cn (note the .cn) works fine. Similar visual recaptchs used on Chinese services tend to focus on Chinese characters on a low resolution picture background. Training for street names? I don't know Resolving to google.com does not resolve (gmail does, a bit, IMAP but only every few hours or days, depending on connection sans VPN).

I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?

by shawnz 7y ago

I thought recaptcha provided alternate domains/hosts not linked to Google so that you can use it in China. Is that not the case anymore?

novaleaf 7y ago

if this is true, I'd love to hear the alternate! I use recaptcha and hate that my chinese customers need to do wacky stuff to circumvent it.

vinay_ys 7y ago
Just out of curiosity, why do you use reCaptcha?
judge2020 7y ago
Not sure if this is "officially" supported but I believe you can proxy the `api.js` file yourself without issue.
- fasthandle 7y ago
  The photos or voice still needs to come from from somewhere. The somewhere is google.com. The .com is blocked.
  - shawnz 7y ago
    Please see my other reply in this thread: "recaptcha.net" can also be used. Is that blocked in China too? I can't find a clear answer.
    - fasthandle 7y ago
      I pinged recapture.net and got a 50ms response time. Baidu would give a 20ms response time. That's on WiFi. That leads me to think the server responding to these pings is in certainly in mainland China, I think in Alibaba's IP range, but probably not a CDN. Interesting, thanks.
shawnz 7y ago
See: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/faq Look under the section "use recaptcha globally" -- this is what I was referring to. However it's not clear to me if this approach enables use in China or not.
- Theodores 7y ago
  Thanks for that. Changing to www.recaptcha.net right now! Could be a while before I get enquiries from China but there is only one way to find out. Google did say 'globally'...
mdekkers 7y ago
>I use recaptcha Please consider not using recaptcha, it is the herpes of the web.

fasthandle 7y ago

reCAPTCHA does not work in China mainland (it does in HK, but that's different for now). But translate.google.cn (note the .cn) works fine. Similar visual recaptchs used on Chinese services tend to focus on Chinese characters on a low resolution picture background. Training for street names? I don't know Resolving to google.com does not resolve (gmail does, a bit, IMAP but only every few hours or days, depending on connection sans VPN).