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I'd be happy to pay for Firefox, but I have a few points that are important to me. They are probably not very realistic but here they are anyway: 1. I want my

I'd be happy to pay for Firefox, but I have a few points that are important to me. They are probably not very realistic but here they are anyway: 1. I want my money to go into Firefox development and nowhere else. I certainly don't want my money spent on their content business, even if it is used as a leverage to generate more money for Firefox development. I'm torn about Rust development because I certainly would love to see Rust flourish, but if we allow the money go into personally preferred projects it becomes hard to draw the line. 2. I want a Firefox with absolutely no strings attached. - No Pocket, not even a trace of it - No experiments, labs or whatever they call it (see Mr. Robot for an example) - No network connections to third party hosts as long I haven't explicitly opted in. - Safe search off by default - No predefined search engines - No predefined start page 3. I want Mozilla (as a whole and not only the Firefox branch) to be more carefully with the selection of their businesses partners. I'm am not aiming at their co-operations with Google, Yandex and the like, which are OK for me. At least as long as my points from above are respected. Specifically I'm OK if the free version of Firefox continues to be sponsored mainly by Google. I'm not OK with business deals of the kind they had with Cliqz for example.

wodenokoto 7y ago
You want a pro version that doesn’t use Mozilla services and money is not spend on infrastructure or dependent software or application research because that is not “Firefox development”. I think anyone would be just fine not having you as a customer.
- weinzierl 7y ago
  Paying for development infrastructure and research to bring Firefox forward is Firefox development. I'm not interested in their services, all I care for is the browser. As a customer I think it is well in my right to just pay for what I use. At the very least it is not impolite to ask for that.
  - Xylakant 7y ago
    It’s well within Mozilla’s right to offer a packaged deal that you can either take or leave. If that includes parts you don’t use, you’re stuck with buying or not buying. It’s well within your right to not buy the bundle, but there is no right to get it unbundled.
- despera 7y ago
  He is asking to pay money for focused development to the browser itself instead of pesky VPN services and opt-out "studies" and that makes him a bad customer? Doesn't make much sense.
Shorel 7y ago
Good to have the option to use it as you want. I hope they do the version for you. But I want my version with Pocket. Pocket integration is one of the reasons I use Firefox in the first place.
- iamnothere 7y ago
  Why not just have it as an extension, with a convenient dialog for installing such "extras" displayed at first install? Or a "Mozilla recommends" section with such extensions placed front and center? Either one would make it super easy.
huhtenberg 7y ago
> No network connections to third party hosts as long I haven't explicitly opted in. I would gladly pay for Firefox if it had an option of radio-silent mode, with detailed list of which hosts it wants to connect to and why. Some connections are obviously needed (CRL retrieval and such), but there's a LOT of superficial chatter due to options like "Block dangerous and deceptive content" that are on by default and that ultimately leak stuff that I don't it want.
iamnothere 7y ago
I agree, I'd be interested in this as well. Based on the replies you're getting, I'd also like to point out that I'm tired of this trend in discussions: Person A states their preferences regarding a product and says that they wish that the company would offer certain options. Person A says that they would be more likely to buy (or would only buy) the product with those options available. Nowhere is it demanded that the company implement these options, but person A has very clearly indicated their preferences. Persons B, C, and D then immediately come out of the woodwork to shut down the discussion: * Person B explains why nobody else would be interested in the options that person A has asked for. Person A is a "niche" user and their opinions are unimportant. * Person C characterizes person A as "unreasonable" or "entitled" and explains why no company in their right mind would want person A as a customer. * Person D counters person A's statement by explaining that the company can produce any product they want to, and that they don't have to listen to person A's request. It's a private company, etc, etc. (Note that nowhere did person A imply that the company had to listen to their request.) For real-world examples of this phenomenon, see any thread regarding (in particular) Apple, Mozilla, or Tesla.

wodenokoto 7y ago

You want a pro version that doesn’t use Mozilla services and money is not spend on infrastructure or dependent software or application research because that is not “Firefox development”. I think anyone would be just fine not having you as a customer.

weinzierl 7y ago
Paying for development infrastructure and research to bring Firefox forward is Firefox development. I'm not interested in their services, all I care for is the browser. As a customer I think it is well in my right to just pay for what I use. At the very least it is not impolite to ask for that.
- Xylakant 7y ago
  It’s well within Mozilla’s right to offer a packaged deal that you can either take or leave. If that includes parts you don’t use, you’re stuck with buying or not buying. It’s well within your right to not buy the bundle, but there is no right to get it unbundled.
despera 7y ago
He is asking to pay money for focused development to the browser itself instead of pesky VPN services and opt-out "studies" and that makes him a bad customer? Doesn't make much sense.

Shorel 7y ago

Good to have the option to use it as you want. I hope they do the version for you. But I want my version with Pocket. Pocket integration is one of the reasons I use Firefox in the first place.

iamnothere 7y ago
Why not just have it as an extension, with a convenient dialog for installing such "extras" displayed at first install? Or a "Mozilla recommends" section with such extensions placed front and center? Either one would make it super easy.

huhtenberg 7y ago

> No network connections to third party hosts as long I haven't explicitly opted in. I would gladly pay for Firefox if it had an option of radio-silent mode, with detailed list of which hosts it wants to connect to and why. Some connections are obviously needed (CRL retrieval and such), but there's a LOT of superficial chatter due to options like "Block dangerous and deceptive content" that are on by default and that ultimately leak stuff that I don't it want.

iamnothere 7y ago

I agree, I'd be interested in this as well. Based on the replies you're getting, I'd also like to point out that I'm tired of this trend in discussions: Person A states their preferences regarding a product and says that they wish that the company would offer certain options. Person A says that they would be more likely to buy (or would only buy) the product with those options available. Nowhere is it demanded that the company implement these options, but person A has very clearly indicated their preferences. Persons B, C, and D then immediately come out of the woodwork to shut down the discussion: * Person B explains why nobody else would be interested in the options that person A has asked for. Person A is a "niche" user and their opinions are unimportant. * Person C characterizes person A as "unreasonable" or "entitled" and explains why no company in their right mind would want person A as a customer. * Person D counters person A's statement by explaining that the company can produce any product they want to, and that they don't have to listen to person A's request. It's a private company, etc, etc. (Note that nowhere did person A imply that the company had to listen to their request.) For real-world examples of this phenomenon, see any thread regarding (in particular) Apple, Mozilla, or Tesla.