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I don’t think so. Corporate sponsorships are a much better source of revenue.

rtempaccount1 7y ago
Well sponsorships are part of conf. revenue in a lot of cases. I've looked at the sponsor packs for the CNCF conferences, and those higher tiers do not come cheap. Also don't underestimate smaller individual payments * very large number. E.g. Kubecon Barcelona, tickets were $900+ each and there were 7700 people, so we're talking almost $7m from ticket sales alone. Now the venue ain't cheap but that + all the sponsor cash == a fair profit, I'd expect.
- RyJones 7y ago
  look here on page 9: https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_IRS990_0.html?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIA266MJEJY4BPWHTVU%2F20190610%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190610T010454Z&X-Amz-Expires=1800&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEGgaDFu7GJiems7CDWtIqiKWBIyEJe3KSCuYwUSfrCz1pGk1sf3x9K430voq74APfo4tSoZ7M9X2WosDkPnGTKjakqlOSrRo5oFaj51dg%2BiN1T9I3O4%2Fck8ZxhIoTCMbWJlsSAnksvtTAiEsA1JdJr4N9EL3p4ORQfjHpbRg4caMIrtK5q1vflqGwjX1lNlLxOjnlpxFSuhfDF%2FenCNMU%2F54n33EVQh4tT4aWC6ALs4xu%2FvLnH5zHiEERaOzflZwu5zGpMMyreYMi%2B%2FzLbFOUccTxgdOZzIkdbFId%2BRC%2BcclbLfkeav2EwyJV09safmRGbypowM8muKEHiRXzMXwQ4D1Cy%2B%2BuPLfhnnILK%2Fd9lQ9KiNy%2Fv3fYkdiy%2BJNer2voBabYPlakbD%2FjJeFG4KEodkuG9iPufxc%2Fv7qcwGLIR5hxHDPs4AObWYK6dBIi%2FxG1K1TD4PDjqq4xMay3u9Z5Jh5hoYNF5%2F678IqZ0st2Y80wpaXZAqfeuzDZuLLBVs5j2rqZRhxqFkpIGG0RWzYRbKHJHOMI%2BEJdLwmkSHYfJ%2FNQx%2FDMJkLR4x1W8Qo9VRU2P%2BJlJqTmvGFgRZsxhzUjPVLMxbSke5J79FrLBwyeCXLr3WRpgGBOSzdXpCAJWoUbYn3m45GRTQH8wIc5gM7Z%2FMmDzNaRj3E0TbkvF%2FPeg6XQBiSgGtZythlTGWJqERhp2beLlHSKRlP6mTYFIhL5Ed%2For8h%2FIxK1ijqi%2FbnBQ%3D%3D&X-Amz-Signature=867dd41becf325410ef0145b577839184ee509a57f180106fe123ddd687a5396 https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_... it breaks down the income into broad buckets
RyJones 7y ago
Our member lists are public and the price of membership at every level is public. ETA: look here on page 9: https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_IRS990_0.html?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIA266MJEJY4BPWHTVU%2F20190610%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190610T010454Z&X-Amz-Expires=1800&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEGgaDFu7GJiems7CDWtIqiKWBIyEJe3KSCuYwUSfrCz1pGk1sf3x9K430voq74APfo4tSoZ7M9X2WosDkPnGTKjakqlOSrRo5oFaj51dg%2BiN1T9I3O4%2Fck8ZxhIoTCMbWJlsSAnksvtTAiEsA1JdJr4N9EL3p4ORQfjHpbRg4caMIrtK5q1vflqGwjX1lNlLxOjnlpxFSuhfDF%2FenCNMU%2F54n33EVQh4tT4aWC6ALs4xu%2FvLnH5zHiEERaOzflZwu5zGpMMyreYMi%2B%2FzLbFOUccTxgdOZzIkdbFId%2BRC%2BcclbLfkeav2EwyJV09safmRGbypowM8muKEHiRXzMXwQ4D1Cy%2B%2BuPLfhnnILK%2Fd9lQ9KiNy%2Fv3fYkdiy%2BJNer2voBabYPlakbD%2FjJeFG4KEodkuG9iPufxc%2Fv7qcwGLIR5hxHDPs4AObWYK6dBIi%2FxG1K1TD4PDjqq4xMay3u9Z5Jh5hoYNF5%2F678IqZ0st2Y80wpaXZAqfeuzDZuLLBVs5j2rqZRhxqFkpIGG0RWzYRbKHJHOMI%2BEJdLwmkSHYfJ%2FNQx%2FDMJkLR4x1W8Qo9VRU2P%2BJlJqTmvGFgRZsxhzUjPVLMxbSke5J79FrLBwyeCXLr3WRpgGBOSzdXpCAJWoUbYn3m45GRTQH8wIc5gM7Z%2FMmDzNaRj3E0TbkvF%2FPeg6XQBiSgGtZythlTGWJqERhp2beLlHSKRlP6mTYFIhL5Ed%2For8h%2FIxK1ijqi%2FbnBQ%3D%3D&X-Amz-Signature=867dd41becf325410ef0145b577839184ee509a57f180106fe123ddd687a5396 https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_... it breaks down the income into broad buckets
ec109685 7y ago
Yep, wrong about that. 63M revenue for conferences, 12M for sponsorships and 5M for training. Though I bet a lot of that 63M is conference sponsorships. Source: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801/201823199349304962/IRS990 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460...

Well sponsorships are part of conf. revenue in a lot of cases. I've looked at the sponsor packs for the CNCF conferences, and those higher tiers do not come cheap. Also don't underestimate smaller individual payments * very large number. E.g. Kubecon Barcelona, tickets were $900+ each and there were 7700 people, so we're talking almost $7m from ticket sales alone. Now the venue ain't cheap but that + all the sponsor cash == a fair profit, I'd expect.

RyJones 7y ago
look here on page 9: https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_IRS990_0.html?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIA266MJEJY4BPWHTVU%2F20190610%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190610T010454Z&X-Amz-Expires=1800&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEGgaDFu7GJiems7CDWtIqiKWBIyEJe3KSCuYwUSfrCz1pGk1sf3x9K430voq74APfo4tSoZ7M9X2WosDkPnGTKjakqlOSrRo5oFaj51dg%2BiN1T9I3O4%2Fck8ZxhIoTCMbWJlsSAnksvtTAiEsA1JdJr4N9EL3p4ORQfjHpbRg4caMIrtK5q1vflqGwjX1lNlLxOjnlpxFSuhfDF%2FenCNMU%2F54n33EVQh4tT4aWC6ALs4xu%2FvLnH5zHiEERaOzflZwu5zGpMMyreYMi%2B%2FzLbFOUccTxgdOZzIkdbFId%2BRC%2BcclbLfkeav2EwyJV09safmRGbypowM8muKEHiRXzMXwQ4D1Cy%2B%2BuPLfhnnILK%2Fd9lQ9KiNy%2Fv3fYkdiy%2BJNer2voBabYPlakbD%2FjJeFG4KEodkuG9iPufxc%2Fv7qcwGLIR5hxHDPs4AObWYK6dBIi%2FxG1K1TD4PDjqq4xMay3u9Z5Jh5hoYNF5%2F678IqZ0st2Y80wpaXZAqfeuzDZuLLBVs5j2rqZRhxqFkpIGG0RWzYRbKHJHOMI%2BEJdLwmkSHYfJ%2FNQx%2FDMJkLR4x1W8Qo9VRU2P%2BJlJqTmvGFgRZsxhzUjPVLMxbSke5J79FrLBwyeCXLr3WRpgGBOSzdXpCAJWoUbYn3m45GRTQH8wIc5gM7Z%2FMmDzNaRj3E0TbkvF%2FPeg6XQBiSgGtZythlTGWJqERhp2beLlHSKRlP6mTYFIhL5Ed%2For8h%2FIxK1ijqi%2FbnBQ%3D%3D&X-Amz-Signature=867dd41becf325410ef0145b577839184ee509a57f180106fe123ddd687a5396 https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_... it breaks down the income into broad buckets

RyJones 7y ago

Our member lists are public and the price of membership at every level is public. ETA: look here on page 9: https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_IRS990_0.html?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIA266MJEJY4BPWHTVU%2F20190610%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20190610T010454Z&X-Amz-Expires=1800&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Security-Token=FQoGZXIvYXdzEGgaDFu7GJiems7CDWtIqiKWBIyEJe3KSCuYwUSfrCz1pGk1sf3x9K430voq74APfo4tSoZ7M9X2WosDkPnGTKjakqlOSrRo5oFaj51dg%2BiN1T9I3O4%2Fck8ZxhIoTCMbWJlsSAnksvtTAiEsA1JdJr4N9EL3p4ORQfjHpbRg4caMIrtK5q1vflqGwjX1lNlLxOjnlpxFSuhfDF%2FenCNMU%2F54n33EVQh4tT4aWC6ALs4xu%2FvLnH5zHiEERaOzflZwu5zGpMMyreYMi%2B%2FzLbFOUccTxgdOZzIkdbFId%2BRC%2BcclbLfkeav2EwyJV09safmRGbypowM8muKEHiRXzMXwQ4D1Cy%2B%2BuPLfhnnILK%2Fd9lQ9KiNy%2Fv3fYkdiy%2BJNer2voBabYPlakbD%2FjJeFG4KEodkuG9iPufxc%2Fv7qcwGLIR5hxHDPs4AObWYK6dBIi%2FxG1K1TD4PDjqq4xMay3u9Z5Jh5hoYNF5%2F678IqZ0st2Y80wpaXZAqfeuzDZuLLBVs5j2rqZRhxqFkpIGG0RWzYRbKHJHOMI%2BEJdLwmkSHYfJ%2FNQx%2FDMJkLR4x1W8Qo9VRU2P%2BJlJqTmvGFgRZsxhzUjPVLMxbSke5J79FrLBwyeCXLr3WRpgGBOSzdXpCAJWoUbYn3m45GRTQH8wIc5gM7Z%2FMmDzNaRj3E0TbkvF%2FPeg6XQBiSgGtZythlTGWJqERhp2beLlHSKRlP6mTYFIhL5Ed%2For8h%2FIxK1ijqi%2FbnBQ%3D%3D&X-Amz-Signature=867dd41becf325410ef0145b577839184ee509a57f180106fe123ddd687a5396 https://pp-990-rendered.s3.amazonaws.com/201823199349304962_... it breaks down the income into broad buckets

ec109685 7y ago

Yep, wrong about that. 63M revenue for conferences, 12M for sponsorships and 5M for training. Though I bet a lot of that 63M is conference sponsorships. Source: https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801/201823199349304962/IRS990 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460...