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I don't know many skinny vegetarians. Eating nothing but carbs and butter is vegetarian and extremely unhealthy.

maccard 7y ago
There are plenty of super high protein vegetatian and vegan options available. Many nuts, and pulses are in the same ballpark as even red meat. Consider that most people aren't strictly carnivorous, and are usually pairing a burger with 600 calories of fries, and a 400 calorie bun, which is all carb.
- dpoochieni 7y ago
  Not by any chance, when I eat nut they tend to deplete my minerals, requiring constants supplementation. Plus, I think some aminoacids are difficult to source from vegetarian sources. I personally do great on glycine (skin, eyes, hair, overall inflammation, sleep) and have not found a veggie source.
- vibrato 7y ago
  Nothing is in the same ballpark as red meat in terms of nutrition density and bioavailability.
  - maccard 7y ago
    A beef steak is about 270 calories for 30g of protein, cooked lentils are about 22g for the same number of calories. I'm not researched enough in bioavailability to comment on that part. For an 80kg man, the "recommended" protein intake is about 64g, the difference in calories is fairly minute (assuming you compare 100% meat vs 100% lentils). If you're training/weightlifting and following the advice of 2-3g per kg of bodyweight, you're almost certainly going to supplement your protein intake anyway. Protein supplements are 2-3x the density of red meat, and available in vegan options if that's your thing.
    - vibrato 7y ago
      The bioavailability of protein from lentils is about 60%. So your cherrypicked comparison has about 50% of the useful protein content of beef. Macronutrients are not the entire picture. If you look into micronutrients you’ll find all of the essentials in beef, some are not found at all in plant sources. Be careful about all fda recommendations, they were heavily influenced by lobbying from the sugar / grain / cereal industry and are not being updated in step with science.
cptskippy 7y ago
Maybe you just run in extremely unhealthy circles.
solarengineer 7y ago
In India, we vegetarians eat main courses made of vegetables and pulses, with grain-based bread or white /brown rice. Thus, we don't eat only carbs and butter, but lots of (in fact, mainly) vegetables too. I do not know about the availability of vegetables in mainly meat-eating countries. I do know that vegetables may not often come to mind, and indeed I'm amused at various powdered vegetable drinks :)
- vibrato 7y ago
  India has the highest rates of depression and one of the highest rates of heart disease, I posit this is because their exceptionally low intake of nutrition from animals. Hong Kong, with the highest consumption of meat per capita, has the highest life expectancy in the world.
hallihax 7y ago
Do you think vegans eat 'nothing but carbs and butter'?

There are plenty of super high protein vegetatian and vegan options available. Many nuts, and pulses are in the same ballpark as even red meat. Consider that most people aren't strictly carnivorous, and are usually pairing a burger with 600 calories of fries, and a 400 calorie bun, which is all carb.

dpoochieni 7y ago
Not by any chance, when I eat nut they tend to deplete my minerals, requiring constants supplementation. Plus, I think some aminoacids are difficult to source from vegetarian sources. I personally do great on glycine (skin, eyes, hair, overall inflammation, sleep) and have not found a veggie source.
vibrato 7y ago
Nothing is in the same ballpark as red meat in terms of nutrition density and bioavailability.
- maccard 7y ago
  A beef steak is about 270 calories for 30g of protein, cooked lentils are about 22g for the same number of calories. I'm not researched enough in bioavailability to comment on that part. For an 80kg man, the "recommended" protein intake is about 64g, the difference in calories is fairly minute (assuming you compare 100% meat vs 100% lentils). If you're training/weightlifting and following the advice of 2-3g per kg of bodyweight, you're almost certainly going to supplement your protein intake anyway. Protein supplements are 2-3x the density of red meat, and available in vegan options if that's your thing.
  - vibrato 7y ago
    The bioavailability of protein from lentils is about 60%. So your cherrypicked comparison has about 50% of the useful protein content of beef. Macronutrients are not the entire picture. If you look into micronutrients you’ll find all of the essentials in beef, some are not found at all in plant sources. Be careful about all fda recommendations, they were heavily influenced by lobbying from the sugar / grain / cereal industry and are not being updated in step with science.

cptskippy 7y ago

Maybe you just run in extremely unhealthy circles.

solarengineer 7y ago

In India, we vegetarians eat main courses made of vegetables and pulses, with grain-based bread or white /brown rice. Thus, we don't eat only carbs and butter, but lots of (in fact, mainly) vegetables too. I do not know about the availability of vegetables in mainly meat-eating countries. I do know that vegetables may not often come to mind, and indeed I'm amused at various powdered vegetable drinks :)

vibrato 7y ago
India has the highest rates of depression and one of the highest rates of heart disease, I posit this is because their exceptionally low intake of nutrition from animals. Hong Kong, with the highest consumption of meat per capita, has the highest life expectancy in the world.

hallihax 7y ago

Do you think vegans eat 'nothing but carbs and butter'?