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Stop calling these territories Polish ones. They belonged to Belarus and Ukraine before. Poland took these territories after 1918-1921 Soviet Polish war. These

Stop calling these territories Polish ones. They belonged to Belarus and Ukraine before. Poland took these territories after 1918-1921 Soviet Polish war. These territories were Part of Big Belarusian- Lithevian country. This country was in Union with Poland.

Isinlor 7y ago
Where did you take the "Big Belarusian-Lithevian country" from? As far as I know, this name is used neither in Polish, Lithuanian, nor English. The proper name is "the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ruthenia and Samogitia" (Wielkie Księstwo Litewskie, Rusi i Żmudzi), that was part of the "Crown of the Kingdom of Poland" and the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania". After the Constitution of May 3 and Reciprocal Guarantee of Two Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Guarantee_of_Two_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Guarantee_of_Two_Na...), this state became the "Commonwealth of Poland" ("Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów" or as referred to in the current Polish constitution "Pierwsza Rzeczpospolita"). And... What belonged to who is quite close to meaningless. When do you want to set the date of the original ownership? Some 35 000 years ago when these lands were probably first settled or at some arbitrary point later on? How do you treat the right to self-determination and regions of mixed ethnicity with no absolute majority? Lands of current Belarus and Ukraine belonged to Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth before partitions, then they belonged mostly to Russia. After the first World War, we ended up in a very complex situation with vast regions with populations of mixed ethnicity and conflicting claims that resulted in wars. Poland claimed these lands as did Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine based on the wave of the modern ideas of a nation state. Poland managed to overpower them and focused on Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth as the original ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Krai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Krai The idea of state ownership of land has really no absolute truth to it. There are no rules that will allow fairly dividing Africa after what was done to that continent during colonialism, Middle East including Palestine or central and eastern Europe. Well, even dealing with Brexit is quite an impossible task.

Isinlor 7y ago

Where did you take the "Big Belarusian-Lithevian country" from? As far as I know, this name is used neither in Polish, Lithuanian, nor English. The proper name is "the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ruthenia and Samogitia" (Wielkie Księstwo Litewskie, Rusi i Żmudzi), that was part of the "Crown of the Kingdom of Poland" and the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania". After the Constitution of May 3 and Reciprocal Guarantee of Two Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Guarantee_of_Two_Nations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_Guarantee_of_Two_Na...), this state became the "Commonwealth of Poland" ("Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów" or as referred to in the current Polish constitution "Pierwsza Rzeczpospolita"). And... What belonged to who is quite close to meaningless. When do you want to set the date of the original ownership? Some 35 000 years ago when these lands were probably first settled or at some arbitrary point later on? How do you treat the right to self-determination and regions of mixed ethnicity with no absolute majority? Lands of current Belarus and Ukraine belonged to Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth before partitions, then they belonged mostly to Russia. After the first World War, we ended up in a very complex situation with vast regions with populations of mixed ethnicity and conflicting claims that resulted in wars. Poland claimed these lands as did Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine based on the wave of the modern ideas of a nation state. Poland managed to overpower them and focused on Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth as the original ownership. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Krai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Krai The idea of state ownership of land has really no absolute truth to it. There are no rules that will allow fairly dividing Africa after what was done to that continent during colonialism, Middle East including Palestine or central and eastern Europe. Well, even dealing with Brexit is quite an impossible task.