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> Meanwhile, what does FIAT make in Italy these days? Quite a bit, it turns out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fiat_Group_assembly_sites https://en.wi

> Meanwhile, what does FIAT make in Italy these days? Quite a bit, it turns out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fiat_Group_assembly_sites https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fiat_Group_assembly_si...

Theodores 7y ago
The Panda and the 500x. Those are the two models FIAT make in Italy with the FIAT badge on them. The wider group makes Maserati and you don't see many of them in your supermarket car park. The 500x is not to be confused with the multitude of other 500 models. As in the ones you actually see. As for the Panda: "The decision to manufacture the car in Italy, instead of manufacturing it with the cheaper workforce in Tychy, Poland, was taken because of the agreement between Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and Fiat directors not to close down any of Fiat's plants in Italy." Almost forgot about the Ducato van. This gets more interesting as it is a joint venture with PSA. There are Peugeot and Citroen versions so exactly how a merger would work out with Renault could be interesting. Renault partner with Mercedes in the category. So a few thousand Maserati things, the vans and a few cars kept being made in Italy so as to keep the government happy. It's a lot but not a lot. Anyway, it is just final assembly we are talking about. Where do the components come from? The final bit of putting the jigsaw puzzle is what we all think a car factory is but there is always 10x the jobs in the component suppliers. Get rid of the factory though and the local demand for the components is gone. I suspect all the components business for FIAT has moved over to Poland and elsewhere for the same reasons - people don't have rentseekers demanding vast sums out of them every month in these 'lower wage' economies.
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- Camillo 7y ago
  The Panda is the top-selling car in Italy by a huge margin. http://listino.motori24.ilsole24ore.com/auto-prezzi/classifiche/le-auto-piu-vendute-in-italia/ http://listino.motori24.ilsole24ore.com/auto-prezzi/classifi... And the 500X is the best-selling version of the 500.

Theodores 7y ago

The Panda and the 500x. Those are the two models FIAT make in Italy with the FIAT badge on them. The wider group makes Maserati and you don't see many of them in your supermarket car park. The 500x is not to be confused with the multitude of other 500 models. As in the ones you actually see. As for the Panda: "The decision to manufacture the car in Italy, instead of manufacturing it with the cheaper workforce in Tychy, Poland, was taken because of the agreement between Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and Fiat directors not to close down any of Fiat's plants in Italy." Almost forgot about the Ducato van. This gets more interesting as it is a joint venture with PSA. There are Peugeot and Citroen versions so exactly how a merger would work out with Renault could be interesting. Renault partner with Mercedes in the category. So a few thousand Maserati things, the vans and a few cars kept being made in Italy so as to keep the government happy. It's a lot but not a lot. Anyway, it is just final assembly we are talking about. Where do the components come from? The final bit of putting the jigsaw puzzle is what we all think a car factory is but there is always 10x the jobs in the component suppliers. Get rid of the factory though and the local demand for the components is gone. I suspect all the components business for FIAT has moved over to Poland and elsewhere for the same reasons - people don't have rentseekers demanding vast sums out of them every month in these 'lower wage' economies.

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Camillo 7y ago
The Panda is the top-selling car in Italy by a huge margin. http://listino.motori24.ilsole24ore.com/auto-prezzi/classifiche/le-auto-piu-vendute-in-italia/ http://listino.motori24.ilsole24ore.com/auto-prezzi/classifi... And the 500X is the best-selling version of the 500.