> I'm (somewhat unwillingly) coming to the conclusion that nobody really feels like they know how to manage programmers. That's because they don't. I've had

> I'm (somewhat unwillingly) coming to the conclusion that nobody really feels like they know how to manage programmers. That's because they don't. I've had good managers and bad ones, and all the good ones were, or had been, software engineers themselves. (Of course, some of the engineers were not so great as managers.) As I like to say, software engineering is about the management of complexity, and if you've never worked on a complex system, you don't understand how to do that.