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This is why I gave up on ever having a "real job". This thread inspired me to take a look at a job board and the first thing I saw was a mobile developer job li

This is why I gave up on ever having a "real job". This thread inspired me to take a look at a job board and the first thing I saw was a mobile developer job listed as "entry level". Scrolling down, the requirements are 5 years minimum mobile development experience. This is entry level now? Five years experience? By the time I have five years experience working at some kind of theoretical pre-entry level job and finally qualify for "entry level", I'll be old enough to be age discriminated against for being too old. If I could afford it, I'd go back to school to be an accountant or something, but since programming as all I know how to do and can afford to do, it's monetize "side projects" or die poor. And yes I know, working for someone else would make way more money, but that's like saying to an Uber driver "Hey bro, you'd make way more money with an NYC cab medallion". Like they don't know that? Of course, but that is not an option.

devonkim 7y ago
There’s some cruel irony of you bringing up accounting for more stability when another poster in these comments said his father was laid off from an accounting job in his 40s and never found another job again. Modern work is brutal in the developed world and our institutions both government and market are failing at utilizing the wealth of human experience and knowledge available primarily for the sake of institutions built upon generations of burn-out, complacency, and cronyism as the dark sides of the virtues of diligence, solidarity, and trust relationships.
- intended 7y ago
  Not accounting, he said finance. Usually accountants get hired, while finance types are the ones capable of making retirement savings.
- pmiller2 7y ago
  Not to mention PWC was one of the companies named in the article as a potential perpetrator of age discrimination.
- madengr 7y ago
  Had lunch with a friend yesterday, who told me his daughter and her her husband, both under 40, are now partners at their accounting firm. Household income of $480k in flyover country. Maybe accounting is like bimodal legal salaries, you either make it to the top, or you are out.
  - TheCoelacanth 7y ago
    Key word there is "partners". They aren't just accountants, they are also business owners. Any field can give a good income if you own a successful business.
jxramos 7y ago
I think the I internal consistentcy of these job board postings is a function of the recruitment actors of a company properly filling out the webforms for the roles they post. I get the sense that they leave default values or reuse templates that carry over copy/paste errors.
- aiisjustanif 7y ago
  Some of those job postings are so high on requirements to deter outside folks, and hire someone internal. Most companies have a policy of posting a job x amount of days before internals can officially be offered.

devonkim 7y ago

There’s some cruel irony of you bringing up accounting for more stability when another poster in these comments said his father was laid off from an accounting job in his 40s and never found another job again. Modern work is brutal in the developed world and our institutions both government and market are failing at utilizing the wealth of human experience and knowledge available primarily for the sake of institutions built upon generations of burn-out, complacency, and cronyism as the dark sides of the virtues of diligence, solidarity, and trust relationships.

intended 7y ago
Not accounting, he said finance. Usually accountants get hired, while finance types are the ones capable of making retirement savings.
pmiller2 7y ago
Not to mention PWC was one of the companies named in the article as a potential perpetrator of age discrimination.
madengr 7y ago
Had lunch with a friend yesterday, who told me his daughter and her her husband, both under 40, are now partners at their accounting firm. Household income of $480k in flyover country. Maybe accounting is like bimodal legal salaries, you either make it to the top, or you are out.
- TheCoelacanth 7y ago
  Key word there is "partners". They aren't just accountants, they are also business owners. Any field can give a good income if you own a successful business.

jxramos 7y ago

I think the I internal consistentcy of these job board postings is a function of the recruitment actors of a company properly filling out the webforms for the roles they post. I get the sense that they leave default values or reuse templates that carry over copy/paste errors.

aiisjustanif 7y ago
Some of those job postings are so high on requirements to deter outside folks, and hire someone internal. Most companies have a policy of posting a job x amount of days before internals can officially be offered.