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I'm not playing your game because it's not going to go anywhere. I gave you what you asked for. I'm not defining words you can look up within a few seconds your

by lwelyk 7y ago

I'm not playing your game because it's not going to go anywhere. I gave you what you asked for. I'm not defining words you can look up within a few seconds yourself because you're not actually interested in that. I gave you a list of quotes, I gave you a video like you asked. Stefan molyneux has argued in interviews IQ differences are innate. If you check one of the six sources on the wikipedia article attesting to his white supremacist views you'd see the quotes about it. Clicking on the words "white supremacist" there brings you to a wikipedia article that also gives you the definition that you are begging for for some reason: "White supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them." You're being completely disingenuous. Facts don't let you mop the floor with people as you put it. You can just once again complain about 2 sources provided and ignore the rest. You can pretend you don't know the meanings of basic terms. You can pretend that no one can imply anything and only if someone blatantly says "I am a white supremacist and I believe whites are the superior race and all other races are lesser" do they qualify as a white supremacist. I don't need a lecture from you about being intellectually dishonest. Post limits aren't intellectually dishonest also? Not sure what you're going with that.

dondawest 7y ago
As a third party observer of this exchange who did not hold opinions on molyneux before encountering it: * honestly you’ve completely convinced me that molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!! * but you haven’t convinced me he’s a literal white supremacist because he just doesn’t seem to be quoted anywhere asserting the supremacy of white people. I think you did an incredibly good job proving that he is for sure “white supremacy-adjacent,” and also a fuckin weirdo d-bag. But compared to explicitly self-identifying white supremacists like Richard Spencer, Molyneux does not seem like a white supremacist. All that said, fuck him. Those quotes you posted are insane.
- mistermann 7y ago
  Nice to see at least some people getting some enjoyment out of this exhibition! I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out I don't disagree with sentiments like "molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!!", I think that seems like a fairly reasonable conclusion that could be backed up with plenty of evidence. I honestly have trouble watching the guy, he creeps me out. The point of my participation in these types of discussion, at least in part, is to illustrate how prone people on the extreme poles of both sides of political spectrum are to non-evidence-based thinking. Making fun of idiot Trump supporters is like shooting fish in a barrel, but look how easy it is for genuinely intelligent people to hold beliefs that are based on memes confused for facts, and how increasingly anti-intellectual and epistemically dishonest they can become when mistakes are pointed out in the basis of their beliefs. And to anyone who thinks "well who cares, at the end of the day we're far more correct", which is certainly true, I would urge them to pay attention to whether extremist half-truths used on the left are ever used as ammunition in the ongoing culture wars, both by people like Molyneux as well as plain old enthusiasts online. If I think hard enough, I might even be able to come up with two or three instances where it was used in a recent political campaign. Two possibly relevant sayings: "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It." "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table."
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by lwelyk 7y ago

dondawest 7y ago

As a third party observer of this exchange who did not hold opinions on molyneux before encountering it: * honestly you’ve completely convinced me that molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!! * but you haven’t convinced me he’s a literal white supremacist because he just doesn’t seem to be quoted anywhere asserting the supremacy of white people. I think you did an incredibly good job proving that he is for sure “white supremacy-adjacent,” and also a fuckin weirdo d-bag. But compared to explicitly self-identifying white supremacists like Richard Spencer, Molyneux does not seem like a white supremacist. All that said, fuck him. Those quotes you posted are insane.

mistermann 7y ago
Nice to see at least some people getting some enjoyment out of this exhibition! I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out I don't disagree with sentiments like "molyneux is a racist piece of shit, fuck this guy!!", I think that seems like a fairly reasonable conclusion that could be backed up with plenty of evidence. I honestly have trouble watching the guy, he creeps me out. The point of my participation in these types of discussion, at least in part, is to illustrate how prone people on the extreme poles of both sides of political spectrum are to non-evidence-based thinking. Making fun of idiot Trump supporters is like shooting fish in a barrel, but look how easy it is for genuinely intelligent people to hold beliefs that are based on memes confused for facts, and how increasingly anti-intellectual and epistemically dishonest they can become when mistakes are pointed out in the basis of their beliefs. And to anyone who thinks "well who cares, at the end of the day we're far more correct", which is certainly true, I would urge them to pay attention to whether extremist half-truths used on the left are ever used as ammunition in the ongoing culture wars, both by people like Molyneux as well as plain old enthusiasts online. If I think hard enough, I might even be able to come up with two or three instances where it was used in a recent political campaign. Two possibly relevant sayings: "Never Wrestle with a Pig. You Both Get Dirty and the Pig Likes It." "When the facts are on your side, pound the facts. When the law is on your side, pound the law. When neither is on your side, pound the table."

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