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It's not clear why you wrote this You just took the worst source for an English definition, felt compelled to actually include the source as if to dispel unpro

It's not clear why you wrote this You just took the worst source for an English definition, felt compelled to actually include the source as if to dispel unproductive skeptical responses, and then explained what the slang version was in response to a comment telling you both the actual and slang definitions, who had asked when the slang definition will be upgraded for inclusion in the best sources for English definitions

Fnoord 7y ago
> You just took the worst source for an English definition I'll agree to disagree with you on that one. As for my point. My point is that the word porn/porno/pornography doesn't mean what you said it does for Wikipedia. Which suggests for a large population of the world (including myself). That it has that meaning on Reddit or amongst youth is just cargo culture.
- rolltiide 7y ago
  It looks like Oxford and others already have included the expanded definition. You would be in the minority by elevating Wikipedia over them, and I can just as easily modify Wikipedia and also give sources to their curators to gain consensus there. Will your opinion magically change because of that? You don't have to use the word that way, you just have to know what people are referring to and viola language is achieved. Cargo culture is also part of the living dictionary, Oxford has accepted that before you.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    > You would be in the minority by elevating Wikipedia over them, and I can just as easily modify Wikipedia and also give sources to their curators to gain consensus there. Will your opinion magically change because of that? Go for it, and yeah it would (tho it isn't a binary yes/no). I would still know that, generally, the new definition is popularly used among the younger people of our society; not the adolescents and elder. The question with definitions like these is whether they're keepers ie. whether they remain in use on the longer term. > Cargo culture is also part of the living dictionary Cargo cult isn't a definition with such seemingly conflicting meanings. > Oxford has accepted that before you. Irrelevant, and you don't know that for sure either.
    - rolltiide 7y ago
      I'm not a fan of this use of the word porn, I think it is awkward and can make some benign interesting topics seem unsafe for work, which is the only reason I wrote my original comment. But it is interesting how that revealed your antiquated thoughts on consensus and how that relates to the utility and cataloguing of language and how that relates that to mere communication itself. What we have is an easy to understand term, moving from slang to non-slang by various sources just from continual use. It doesn't make it difficult for you to understand, and you also don't have to use it and only understand. So it is interesting how you expand that to an inconsequential pedestal. I would be curious if it remains in use on the longer term. I hope not. But the inclusion in these other dictionaries - whether someone modifies wikipedia or not - just makes it last longer.

Fnoord 7y ago

> You just took the worst source for an English definition I'll agree to disagree with you on that one. As for my point. My point is that the word porn/porno/pornography doesn't mean what you said it does for Wikipedia. Which suggests for a large population of the world (including myself). That it has that meaning on Reddit or amongst youth is just cargo culture.

rolltiide 7y ago
It looks like Oxford and others already have included the expanded definition. You would be in the minority by elevating Wikipedia over them, and I can just as easily modify Wikipedia and also give sources to their curators to gain consensus there. Will your opinion magically change because of that? You don't have to use the word that way, you just have to know what people are referring to and viola language is achieved. Cargo culture is also part of the living dictionary, Oxford has accepted that before you.
- Fnoord 7y ago
  > You would be in the minority by elevating Wikipedia over them, and I can just as easily modify Wikipedia and also give sources to their curators to gain consensus there. Will your opinion magically change because of that? Go for it, and yeah it would (tho it isn't a binary yes/no). I would still know that, generally, the new definition is popularly used among the younger people of our society; not the adolescents and elder. The question with definitions like these is whether they're keepers ie. whether they remain in use on the longer term. > Cargo culture is also part of the living dictionary Cargo cult isn't a definition with such seemingly conflicting meanings. > Oxford has accepted that before you. Irrelevant, and you don't know that for sure either.
  - rolltiide 7y ago
    I'm not a fan of this use of the word porn, I think it is awkward and can make some benign interesting topics seem unsafe for work, which is the only reason I wrote my original comment. But it is interesting how that revealed your antiquated thoughts on consensus and how that relates to the utility and cataloguing of language and how that relates that to mere communication itself. What we have is an easy to understand term, moving from slang to non-slang by various sources just from continual use. It doesn't make it difficult for you to understand, and you also don't have to use it and only understand. So it is interesting how you expand that to an inconsequential pedestal. I would be curious if it remains in use on the longer term. I hope not. But the inclusion in these other dictionaries - whether someone modifies wikipedia or not - just makes it last longer.