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reporting to the DMV and the insurance companies is over the top...those 2 entities specifically ignore vigilantism and your record can only be affected if a po

by vaksel 16y ago

reporting to the DMV and the insurance companies is over the top...those 2 entities specifically ignore vigilantism and your record can only be affected if a police officer who actually knows the law issues a citation. all this will do is overwhelm the resources of the DMV/insurance companies, costing them money, which they'll transfer to their customers. and seriously, the only people who'd do this, would be someone who does 60mph in the left lane, while everyone else is doing 80. And in fact, the guy is the one who is breaking the law, since he is impending the flow of traffic. i look forward to having 4chan track this guy down...snitches get stitches.

jamesaguilar 16y ago
> those 2 entities specifically ignore vigilantism Reporting violations of the law is not the same as taking enforcement of the law into your own hands. The latter is vigilantism. The former is this app. > all this will do is overwhelm the resources of the DMV/insurance companies, costing them money, which they'll transfer to their customers. I don't buy the line of argument that insurance companies and the DMV are incapable of filtering their email, and that somehow this is going to cost significant enough amounts of money that consumers will be affected. > and seriously, the only people who'd do this, would be someone who does 60mph in the left lane, while everyone else is doing 80. And in fact, the guy is the one who is breaking the law, since he is impending the flow of traffic. Since we're going with juvenile arguments, I'll just say that when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me. > i look forward to having 4chan track this guy down...snitches get stitches. Jailhouse moral philosophy! Great finish.
- vaksel 16y ago
  -fine call it activism, they trust cops since they actually know the law. -provided the email gets sent to spam@ its fine, otherwise, you'll still need to have customer service reps go through the list and hit delete. -it's common knowledge that anyone going faster than you is a maniac, and anyone going slower than you is a moron. -what can I say...the guy deserves it.
  - jamesaguilar 16y ago
    > provided the email gets sent to spam@ its fine, otherwise, you'll still need to have customer service reps go through the list and hit delete. Gmail also allows filtering on the sender's address and subject patterns. I'm sure that the insurance companies have more sophisticated systems than this for routing CS requests. Think, please. > it's common knowledge that anyone going faster than you is a maniac, and anyone going slower than you is a moron. So you're of the position that there's no such thing as a bad driver and that anyone who says there is is just going too slow? Not a very well thought out or reality based position if you ask me. > what can I say...the guy deserves it. As do people who drive like jerks on the road. So I guess you and the author of this app have had a meeting of minds at last. It only took four comments.
    - vaksel 16y ago
      -who says they'd want to filter them out completely? -i'm in the position, that our speed laws are outdated. Cars are now much more stable at speeds. Hell you can go 140mph in a M3 without actually feeling it. Hell it doesn't even have to be a M3...you can do 120mph in a civic just fine. There's actually been studies done that show that lower speed limits actually end up causing more accidents. No, I'm not advocating for 120mph speed limits, but 80mph is perfectly safe for any car. -There is a huge difference between someone going 80-90 in the fast lane, and the guy doing 80-90 passing people on the shoulder.
      - jamesaguilar 16y ago
        > who says they'd want to filter them out completely? Presumably if they are costing the company money and providing no benefit as you originally said, then they would. But, suppose they don't. What point are you trying to make here? > [a bunch of stuff about speed laws] I thought we were talking about an app that allows the reporting of unsafe driving. What do your views on the appropriateness of our speeding laws have to do with it?
- jobu 16y ago
  Speaking of 4chan. This app could be their next uber prank. All they need to know is David Miscavige's license plate number, and I bet hundreds of Anonymous people will be targeting him all over California. How about high school kids? Piss of a popular kid and all his/her friends could start targeting your license plate. This app has huge potential for misuse, and the fact that he's hoping insurance companies may use it for keeping track of customers is very scary indeed.
  - jamesaguilar 16y ago
    > very scary indeed I guess the hacker community is just as susceptible to fear-mongering as the average Republican, because dozens of reasons not to be concerned about this are screaming out at me: 1. No one uses it yet. 1.1. We're not sure anyone ever will. 2. There is zero evidence that it will cause any harm. 3. There is zero evidence that, if it does cause harm, that harm will be irreparable. 4. There is at least some reason to believe that it might have good effects as well. 5. Many of the harmful things that people in this comment area are complaining about could already be accomplished through other means today. The actual increase in attack surface is essentially nil. 6. Many of the commenters, while complaining about vigilante justice, are also calling for vigilante justice against the app's author. On the one hand, turnabout is fair play. On the other hand, if you embrace this sort of vigilantism, why not embrace the sort the app's author is promoting? Also, have you no shame, you hypocrites? If you think that this app is "very scary indeed," I really believe you need to work on your fear tolerance because there are things in the world worth being afraid of and this is not it.

by vaksel 16y ago

jamesaguilar 16y ago

> those 2 entities specifically ignore vigilantism Reporting violations of the law is not the same as taking enforcement of the law into your own hands. The latter is vigilantism. The former is this app. > all this will do is overwhelm the resources of the DMV/insurance companies, costing them money, which they'll transfer to their customers. I don't buy the line of argument that insurance companies and the DMV are incapable of filtering their email, and that somehow this is going to cost significant enough amounts of money that consumers will be affected. > and seriously, the only people who'd do this, would be someone who does 60mph in the left lane, while everyone else is doing 80. And in fact, the guy is the one who is breaking the law, since he is impending the flow of traffic. Since we're going with juvenile arguments, I'll just say that when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me. > i look forward to having 4chan track this guy down...snitches get stitches. Jailhouse moral philosophy! Great finish.

vaksel 16y ago
-fine call it activism, they trust cops since they actually know the law. -provided the email gets sent to spam@ its fine, otherwise, you'll still need to have customer service reps go through the list and hit delete. -it's common knowledge that anyone going faster than you is a maniac, and anyone going slower than you is a moron. -what can I say...the guy deserves it.
- jamesaguilar 16y ago
  > provided the email gets sent to spam@ its fine, otherwise, you'll still need to have customer service reps go through the list and hit delete. Gmail also allows filtering on the sender's address and subject patterns. I'm sure that the insurance companies have more sophisticated systems than this for routing CS requests. Think, please. > it's common knowledge that anyone going faster than you is a maniac, and anyone going slower than you is a moron. So you're of the position that there's no such thing as a bad driver and that anyone who says there is is just going too slow? Not a very well thought out or reality based position if you ask me. > what can I say...the guy deserves it. As do people who drive like jerks on the road. So I guess you and the author of this app have had a meeting of minds at last. It only took four comments.
  - vaksel 16y ago
    -who says they'd want to filter them out completely? -i'm in the position, that our speed laws are outdated. Cars are now much more stable at speeds. Hell you can go 140mph in a M3 without actually feeling it. Hell it doesn't even have to be a M3...you can do 120mph in a civic just fine. There's actually been studies done that show that lower speed limits actually end up causing more accidents. No, I'm not advocating for 120mph speed limits, but 80mph is perfectly safe for any car. -There is a huge difference between someone going 80-90 in the fast lane, and the guy doing 80-90 passing people on the shoulder.
    - jamesaguilar 16y ago
      > who says they'd want to filter them out completely? Presumably if they are costing the company money and providing no benefit as you originally said, then they would. But, suppose they don't. What point are you trying to make here? > [a bunch of stuff about speed laws] I thought we were talking about an app that allows the reporting of unsafe driving. What do your views on the appropriateness of our speeding laws have to do with it?
jobu 16y ago
Speaking of 4chan. This app could be their next uber prank. All they need to know is David Miscavige's license plate number, and I bet hundreds of Anonymous people will be targeting him all over California. How about high school kids? Piss of a popular kid and all his/her friends could start targeting your license plate. This app has huge potential for misuse, and the fact that he's hoping insurance companies may use it for keeping track of customers is very scary indeed.
- jamesaguilar 16y ago
  > very scary indeed I guess the hacker community is just as susceptible to fear-mongering as the average Republican, because dozens of reasons not to be concerned about this are screaming out at me: 1. No one uses it yet. 1.1. We're not sure anyone ever will. 2. There is zero evidence that it will cause any harm. 3. There is zero evidence that, if it does cause harm, that harm will be irreparable. 4. There is at least some reason to believe that it might have good effects as well. 5. Many of the harmful things that people in this comment area are complaining about could already be accomplished through other means today. The actual increase in attack surface is essentially nil. 6. Many of the commenters, while complaining about vigilante justice, are also calling for vigilante justice against the app's author. On the one hand, turnabout is fair play. On the other hand, if you embrace this sort of vigilantism, why not embrace the sort the app's author is promoting? Also, have you no shame, you hypocrites? If you think that this app is "very scary indeed," I really believe you need to work on your fear tolerance because there are things in the world worth being afraid of and this is not it.